From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Peter Salazar Subject: Re: org-mode as an accountability system? Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 14:18:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87linh1pkg.fsf@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c094eebaf8204ba5b8efe Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37257) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S3uTS-00074N-AC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:18:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S3uTP-0003QT-WD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:18:33 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com ([209.85.212.169]:50541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S3uTP-0003Px-Jo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:18:31 -0500 Received: by wibhi20 with SMTP id hi20so1636601wib.0 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 11:18:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87linh1pkg.fsf@googlemail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Thorsten Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --f46d043c094eebaf8204ba5b8efe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Thorsten, Thanks for the thoughts. Clarification: I send my accountability partner a summary of MY committed actions for the day for him to review. We dont' collaborate, and he does not touch or change my tasks. (Although he does send me a list of his own tasks, and how well he did each day.) It's important to send the tasks by e-mail so I know he'll see them right away (and that will keep me accountable). If I send him a link, I know he may or may not view the file if and when he has time. As for using Agenda and hitting > to move a task to the next day, there are two problems with this: 1. this does not change the state of a @didnotdo task to @todo 2. for habits (using the format SCHEDULED: <2012-03-03 Sat +1d>), if I miss a day and then try to mark a habit DONE today, it stamps the habit done for the day I missed, rather than stamping it done today and recording that I did not do it on the day I was supposed to do it. On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Thorsten wrote: > Peter Salazar writes: > > Hi Peter, > without claiming being an expert org-mode user, I had the following > thoughts when reading your post: > > > I have an accountability partner with whom I exchange daily "committed > > actions." Every morning, I e-mail him a list of the tasks I commit to > > completing that day. > > Why sending per email? Why not getting a free private(!) git repo (1GB) > at assembla.com and cooperatively work on one or several org file(s) in > that repo? > > > When I complete a task, I mark it DONE. If I don't complete a task > > that day, I mark it @didnotdo and manually cut and paste it to the > > next day. > > > > Every night, I send him a report of which actions I did and which ones > > I did not do. (I find I get so much more done since I started making > > daily commitments to someone other than myself.) > > If you both work on the same file using git, the current state of > affairs will always be clear, as well as who did what at what time (and > pushed it to the repo). > > > 1. Given that I'm creating my daily task list manually, is there an > > easy way, when I mark a task @didnotdo, to automatically move it to > > the next day's list and change its state to @todo? > > When I have a TODO task in the agenda that I did not complete today, I > just change the date to tomorrow in the agenda using '>'. > If you don't do that, it will appear anyway in the agenda as overdue > task. > > > -- > cheers, > Thorsten > > > --f46d043c094eebaf8204ba5b8efe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Thorsten,

Thanks for the thoughts.=A0

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Clarification: I send my accountability partner a summary of MY c= ommitted actions for the day for him to review. We dont' collaborate, a= nd he does not touch or change my tasks. (Although he does send me a list o= f his own tasks, and how well he did each day.)=A0

It's important to send the tasks by e-mail so I kno= w he'll see them right away (and that will keep me accountable). If I s= end him a link, I know he may or may not view the file if and when he has t= ime.=A0

As for using Agenda and hitting > to move a task to = the next day, there are two problems with this:=A0

1. this does not change the state of a @didnotdo task to @todo
2. for habits (using the format=A0SCHEDULED: <2012-03-03 Sat =A0+1d>)= , if I miss a day and then try to mark a habit DONE today, it stamps the ha= bit done for the day I missed, rather than stamping it done today and recor= ding that I did not do it on the day I was supposed to do it.


On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Tho= rsten <qui= ntfall@googlemail.com> wrote:
Peter Salazar <cycleofsong@gmai= l.com> writes:

Hi Peter,
without claiming being an expert org-mode user, I had the following
thoughts when reading your post:

> I have an accountability partner with whom I exchange daily "comm= itted
> actions." Every morning, I e-mail him a list of the tasks I commi= t to
> completing that day.=A0

Why sending per email? Why not getting a free private(!) git repo (1G= B)
at assembla.com and c= ooperatively work on one or several org file(s) in
that repo?

> When I complete a task, I mark it DONE. If I don't complete a task=
> that day, I mark it @didnotdo and manually cut and paste it to the
> next day.=A0
> =A0
> Every night, I send him a report of which actions I did and which ones=
> I did not do. (I find I get so much more done since I started making > daily commitments to someone other than myself.)

If you both work on the same file using git, the current state of
affairs will always be clear, as well as who did what at what time (and
pushed it to the repo).

> 1. Given that I'm creating my daily task list manually, is there a= n
> easy way, when I mark a task @didnotdo, to automatically move it to > the next day's list and change its state to @todo?=A0

When I have a TODO task in the agenda that I did not complete today, = I
just change the date to tomorrow in the agenda using '>'.
If you don't do that, it will appear anyway in the agenda as overdue task.


--
cheers,
Thorsten



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