From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: RFC: changes to the way prefix arguments work for the command org-todo Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:24:37 +0200 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000007c59b058ffb6052" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42570) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hxS6z-0001Zt-Pn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 04:24:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hxS6y-0007T3-A3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 04:24:57 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f46.google.com ([209.85.208.46]:37892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hxS6y-0007SU-37 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 04:24:56 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f46.google.com with SMTP id r12so3326811edo.5 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2019 01:24:55 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: org-mode list --00000000000007c59b058ffb6052 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I have been looking at the code for the command org-todo in combination with the setting of the variable org-use-fast-todo-selection. And I am frustrated with the complication and special cases, so I would like to simplify. Much of this complication stems from a time when the fast selection interface had just been implemented and I was not yet sure if I and others wanted to use it. I think things can be better. But that does changes something with the user interface, so I am trying to figure out if anyone would be bothered by this change. 1. Right now, you can set org-use-fast-todo-selection to `prefix'. With this setting, fast todo keyword selection is used when you call org-todo with a prefix argument. I think this is not useful and I would like to remove that functionality. Is anyone even aware of this effect of C-u and is using this? 2. I want to change org-use-fast-todo-selection to allow these values: - nil Never use it - auto Use it, if keys have been defined. This would make it similar to the tags selection. I would accept the value `t' to mean the same, for backward compatibility - expert Use it, but do not pop up the window with the selections, only show them in the prompt (or don't show them at all, am still considering). This is because I have been bothered by the jumping windows when I do a selection that I do so many times a day, and where I know the keys blindly. The default setting would be `auto'. I myself would be using `expert'. 3. I want to make `C-u C-c C-t' to switch the TODO state and force logging a time stamp and taking a note. I am already using that functionality (now harder to access, on `C-u C-u C-u C-c C-t'), I find it very natural and I think it is often better than configuring automatic note-taking for every change, at least for my working environment. Automatic note-taking slows me down too often. Any comments? Thanks - Carsten --00000000000007c59b058ffb6052 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I have been looking = at the code for the command org-todo in combination with the setting of the= variable org-use-fast-todo-selection.=C2=A0 And I am frustrated with the c= omplication and special cases, so I would like to simplify.=C2=A0 Much of t= his complication stems from a time when the fast selection interface had ju= st been implemented and I was not yet sure if I and others wanted to use it= . I think things can be better.

But that does chan= ges something with the user interface, so I am trying to figure out if anyo= ne would be bothered by this change.

1. Right now,= you can set org-use-fast-todo-selection to `prefix'.=C2=A0 With this s= etting, fast todo keyword selection is used when you call org-todo with a p= refix argument.=C2=A0 I think this is not useful and I would like to remove= that functionality.=C2=A0 Is anyone even aware of this effect of C-u and i= s using this?

2. I want to change org-use-fast-tod= o-selection to allow these values:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0- nil=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Never use it
=C2=A0 =C2=A0- auto=C2=A0 =C2=A0 U= se it, if keys have been defined.=C2=A0 This would make it similar=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to th= e tags selection.=C2=A0 I would accept the value `t' to mean the same,<= /div>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for= backward compatibility
=C2=A0 =C2=A0- expert=C2=A0 Use it, but d= o not pop up the window with the selections, only show them in the prompt (= or don't show them at all,=C2=A0 am still considering).=C2=A0 This is b= ecause I have been bothered by the jumping windows when I do a selection th= at I do so many times a day, and where I know the keys blindly.
<= br>
The default setting would be `auto'.=C2=A0 I myself would= be using `expert'.

3. I want to make `C-u C-c= C-t' to switch the TODO state and force logging a time stamp and takin= g a note.=C2=A0 I am already using that functionality (now harder to access= , on `C-u C-u C-u C-c C-t'), I find it very natural and I think it is o= ften better than configuring automatic note-taking for every change, at lea= st for my working environment.=C2=A0 Automatic note-taking slows me down to= o often.

Any comments?

Th= anks

- Carsten


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