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From: Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com>
To: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ob-python newline & indentation behavior
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:28:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADRALHxWZYm0J-c5xMktyF73oVT29cNwdbgBbXwfCHbPsPPYFQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r2ssp99s.fsf@kyleam.com>

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Yes, I'm starting to see now how difficult it is to properly support
":session :results value". I would vote to remove it from ob-python...

I think the patch still improves ":session :results output" so I will
simplify it and restrict to that case, leaving ":session :results value"
unchanged for now.

Sorry for sending this twice Kyle, forgot to reply all.

On 21 Nov 2017 4:04 am, "Kyle Meyer" <kyle@kyleam.com> wrote:

> Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > In response to this:
> >
> >> I can't think of a good solution, though.  Stepping back a bit, I think
> >> it's unfortunate that python blocks handle ":results value" differently
> >> depending on whether the block is hooked up to a session or not.  For
> >> non-sessions, you have to use return.  Using the same approach
> >> (org-babel-python-wrapper-method) for ":session :results value", we
> >> could then get the return value reliably, but the problem with this
> >> approach is that any variables defined in a ":results value" block
> >> wouldn't be defined in the session after executing the block because the
> >> code is wrapped in a function.
> >
> > How about if we used the "globals()" and "locals()" functions in Python?
> >
> > Something like this at the end of the wrapper block, before return:
> >
> > for k, v in locals().items():
> >     globals()[k] = v
>
> Hmm, placing that code "before return" is a problem.  Like with
> non-session ":results value" blocks, the user would be responsible for
> inserting the return (or even multiple return's), so we can't know where
> to insert the above code without parsing the block :/
>
> > Another bug with the current approach is that it breaks if common idioms
> > like "for _ in range(10)" are used. ("_" is used to inspect the last
> output
> > of the shell, an obscure feature I hadn't known about until now).
>
> Right.  Also, IIRC the built-in interactive python and ipython treat
> multiline blocks differently.  With
>
>     if True:
>         "ipython ignores my existence"
>
> the built-in shell binds "_" to the string's value, but ipython doesn't.
>
> --
> Kyle
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-21  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-18 12:02 ob-python newline & indentation behavior Jack Kamm
2017-11-18 15:05 ` Kyle Meyer
2017-11-18 22:15   ` Jack Kamm
2017-11-19  3:27     ` Martin Alsinet
2017-11-19  3:34       ` Martin Alsinet
2017-11-19  7:41         ` Jack Kamm
2017-11-20  6:25           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-11-20 21:31             ` Jack Kamm
2017-11-21  4:04               ` Kyle Meyer
2017-11-21  8:28                 ` Jack Kamm [this message]
2017-11-26  2:45                   ` Ista Zahn
2017-11-26  8:25                     ` Jack Kamm
2017-11-26  8:15                   ` Jack Kamm
2017-11-27  4:00                     ` Kyle Meyer
2017-12-09 12:12                       ` John Kamm
2017-12-18  8:22                         ` Jack Kamm
2017-12-18 11:44                           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-12-19  5:11                             ` Kyle Meyer
2017-11-19 17:17     ` Kyle Meyer

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