Hi John, hi everyone, Here are the headers of my org-file: #+OPTIONS: LaTeX:verbatim #+LaTeX_CLASS: koma-article #+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper,twoside,twocolumn] #+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [captions=tableheading] #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[AUTO]{inputenc} #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{fitch} #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{bussproofs} #+LaTeX_CLASS: koma-article #+LANGUAGE: en #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage[backend=biber,style=verbose]{biblatex} #+LaTeX_HEADER: \bibliography{jvr-biblatex-references.bib} #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{bussproofs} #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{fitch} #+LaTeX_HEADER: \usepackage{hyperref} #+OPTIONS: tex:imagemagick #+TITLE: a title #+AUTHOR: Joseph Vidal-Rosset I have a couple of questions: 1) Does biblatex works with ox-bibtex.el ? I suppose that it does not but I can switch to bibtex. 2) I do not know the headers that I have exactly to add in this file. Best wishes, Jo. 2014/1/3 John Hendy > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Joseph Vidal-Rosset > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there somewhere a documentation with a simple helpful example to > follow > > from step to step in order to use ox-bibtex or bibeltex ? I got only a > > message error : "bibtex2html failed" and I do not understand why. > > > > Reading this page, for example, > > http://bowenli37.wordpress.com/tag/org-exp-bibtex/ > > I understand that I must add #+LINK .. > > > > But nothing works... > > > I think you need to post a minimal example with everything required. > For those of us who have never used bibtex (me), it's not clear what > you're trying to do and we (at least I) can't help. For example, > googling "orgmode bibtex" produces links which don't seem to do the > same thing, from my skimming: > - > http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/114864/how-to-get-bibtex-to-work-with-org-mode-latex-export > - http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2013-05/msg00791.html > - http://orgmode.org/worg/org-api/org-bibtex-api.html > - http://blog.karssen.org/2013/08/22/using-bibtex-from-org-mode/ > - > http://tincman.wordpress.com/2011/01/04/research-paper-management-with-emacs-org-mode-and-reftex/ > > For example, only one of those (that I noted), mentions anything about > #+LINK, so I'm thinking that what you are trying to do must be a > subset of everything embodied by "Orgmode and bibtex" since some > fairly complete other posts get by without mentioning using #+LINK. > > Can you post: > - Minimal .org file > - Reproducible .emacs with what you currently have setup to get things > working > - The matching minimal bibliography file > - Perhaps the output you want (in LaTeX or whatever output language) > > Apologies if the above is self-explanatory and I'm playing the > un-needed role of mailing list police. I've noticed a lot of questions > recently without sufficient detail. Always posting with clear goals, > files so others can reproduce, and example output you want saves > others having to fill in the blanks. > > You'll also get a lot more help since those generous with their time > can easily copy and paste some code into their own local Emacs setups > and see if it works. That helps differentiate setup issues from syntax > issues from usage issues, etc. > > > > John > > P.S. Also post what you actually *have* tried. This saves others > having to re-try what you tried, since no one knows that "but nothing > works" means concretely. There's a blog post link with a bunch of > stuff in it, followed by "but nothing works." What, exactly, from that > blog post did you try (as in, paste the code from the various > categories above -- org file, .emacs, bib file -- for each thing > attempted)? > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help > > > > Jo. > > > > > > > > 2014/1/2 Joseph Vidal-Rosset > >> > >> Great ! Many thanks Eric. I see also that I have to forget gmail in > order > >> to definitely adopt gnus ! :) > >> > >> I will be back on the list to say thank you again , to all of you. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> Jo. > >> > >> > >> 2014/1/2 Eric Schulte > >>> > >>> Take a look at ox-bibtex.el in contrib [1], which adds support for > >>> bibtex citations. The commentary at the top of that file explains the > >>> usage, but in brief, ox-bibtex adds cite: links which will export to > >>> HTML, ASCII and LaTeX (using bibtex2html [2] for HTML export, and > pandoc > >>> [3] for ASCII export). > >>> > >>> For example, I've used ox-bibtex to write this Org file [4], which > >>> exports to this HTML [5], as well as LaTeX. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Joseph Vidal-Rosset writes: > >>> > >>> > Hi Rasmus, hi the list, > >>> > > >>> > Reading this thread I've understood that the question of html export > of > >>> > biblatex citations is still an open problem for org-mode developers, > >>> > right > >>> > ? > >>> > > >>> > Thanks to the online manual and the help of the list, I have > succeeded > >>> > to > >>> > write a template of koma-article class which is correctly exported > both > >>> > in > >>> > latex and in html. But I meet the problem of exporting into html > >>> > footnotes > >>> > and references. > >>> > > >>> > At the moment, what is the best i.e. the more convenient solution? > >>> > > >>> > My best wishes for this new year, > >>> > > >>> > Jo. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > 2013/5/21 Rasmus > >>> > > >>> >> Hi, > >>> >> > >>> >> Now that 8.0 has shipped let's talk bibliography support. This > >>> >> follows directly upon the discussion around March[1]. > >>> >> > >>> >> The essence of the thread was that some people agreed that it would > be > >>> >> nice to have support for citation commands build into Org (I'll > >>> >> summarize in the next post). But let me first restate my own take > on > >>> >> the issue. IMO a nice format would be: > >>> >> > >>> >> (*) [KEYWORD PROPERTIES] > >>> >> > >>> >> I think we should allow for a more general approach than one just > for > >>> >> citation and this is a good thing (IMO). > >>> >> > >>> >> The in-buffer display of (*) could be governed by > >>> >> org-buffer-format-KEYWORD (similar to > >>> >> gnus-user-format-function-LETTER) or just identity if no function is > >>> >> defined. Export could be handled by org-BACKEND-KEYWORD or > >>> >> org-export-KEYWORD. With officially recognized KEYWORDs something > >>> >> like citation could be a 'first-class citizen'. PROPERTIES could > be a > >>> >> string like: > >>> >> > >>> >> optional-keyless-entry :prop1 one :prop2 two ... > >>> >> > >>> >> Perhaps, treatment of keyword, could even be handled by an > >>> >> in-buffer Org Babel function in the spirit of e.g. reproducible > >>> >> research (see below). > >>> >> > >>> >> This would be different from Org links in that (*) is more like a > >>> >> functions that allows for (i) pretty and informative display in > >>> >> buffer/export and (ii) easy user extension. > >>> >> > >>> >> I think there are many compelling use-cases for such a framework. > >>> >> > >>> >> 1. Citation: Take the keyword citetext which should be an 'official' > >>> >> KEYWORD. So for instance we could have > >>> >> > >>> >> [citetext BIBTEX-KEY :prenote note, w/comma :postnote blah]. > >>> >> > >>> >> In buffers, via org-in-buffer-format-citetext, it would be > >>> >> displayed as > >>> >> > >>> >> BIBTEX-KEY (note, w/comma, YEAR, blah) > >>> >> > >>> >> or something similar (depending to what extend bibtex.el would be > >>> >> leveraged; e.g. BIBTEX-KEY might show the author/editor key and > >>> >> YEAR would also depend on parsing a bibtex file) (obviouesly, > >>> >> there's some reference to a bibtex file somewhere). In LaTeX it > >>> >> would be exported as > >>> >> > >>> >> \citetext[note,w/comma][blah]{BIBTEX-KEY} > >>> >> > >>> >> In html it might utilize some tool that understand bibtex > (there's > >>> >> a link to such a tool in the next post). In ASCII it could > almost > >>> >> use what would be displayed in the buffer. > >>> >> > >>> >> 2. MY-FUN: MY-FUN is some function that does something with some > >>> >> properties, perhaps just a string (simple cases: [sc text] is > used > >>> >> for small caps, or mayhaps [my-treat-dna-string DNA-STRING]). I > >>> >> might use it in a single file that I want to send to people or I > >>> >> might just use it in my notes. Currently it's implemented via > >>> >> org-emphasis-alist or as a link. Changing emphases is a hacks, > and > >>> >> they are hard to export with the now more robust Org syntax and > >>> >> further permit little control over how they are displayed > >>> >> in-buffer. Links are more flexible but lacks display control and > >>> >> becomes somewhat painful with many arguments[2]. Also, MY-FUN > >>> >> doesn't take a 'description'. With (*) I could simply write > >>> >> > >>> >> [MY-FUN PROPERTIES]. > >>> >> > >>> >> Perhaps, I could even define org-BACKEND-MY-FUN in a babel block > >>> >> if it's only relevant to the current file. > >>> >> > >>> >> There's been some work and some discussion on this already, most > >>> >> notably Aaron already supplied some patches towards this end[3], > >>> >> but using a slightly different syntax more like the link syntax; > >>> >> e.g. textcite above would look like > >>> >> > >>> >> [[textcite:bibtex-key&&pre%3Dfoo&&post%3Dbar][whatever]] > >>> >> > >>> >> where whatever is ignored. The state of the discussion is to some > >>> >> extend summarized in the next post. > >>> >> > >>> >> It would love to hear whether other people find something like this > to > >>> >> be a good idea? Would anyone find a use such a framework? Would > (*) > >>> >> conflict with anyone's current usage of Org? Is (*) too ambitious > and > >>> >> in terms of getting citation support? Is this is taking a musket to > >>> >> kill a butterfly? What are the the flaws in the above. > >>> >> > >>> >> I'm not a good (lisp) programmer, but I think I have a month off > this > >>> >> summer where I could work on something like the above. > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks for reading, > >>> >> Rasmus > >>> >> > >>> >> Footnotes: > >>> >> [1] http://mid.gmane.org/20130303070635.GA12112%40panahar > >>> >> [2] my citation links often look like postnote;prenote without > >>> >> showing the BIBTEX-KEY or citation format. > >>> >> [2] here http://mid.gmane.org/87lia0s7wi.fsf%40bzg.ath.cx > >>> >> and here http://mid.gmane.org/87wqthk7vj.fsf%40gmail.com. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> When in doubt, do it! > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Footnotes: > >>> [1] > >>> > http://orgmode.org/w/?p=org-mode.git;a=blob_plain;f=contrib/lisp/ox-bibtex.el;hb=HEAD > >>> > >>> [2] http://www.lri.fr/~filliatr/bibtex2html/ > >>> > >>> [3] http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ > >>> > >>> [4] > >>> > https://github.com/eschulte/netgear-repair/blob/master/pub/netgear-repair.org > >>> > >>> [5] http://eschulte.github.io/netgear-repair/pub/netgear-repair.html > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Eric Schulte > >>> https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte > >>> PGP: 0x614CA05D > >> > >> > > >