From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Joseph Vidal-Rosset Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:59:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20130928103048.GO12411@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c23ee2f7c24604e7705665 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40360) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPtBe-0006vE-SC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:59:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPtBd-0003eh-Qa for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:59:50 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f]:35342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPtBd-0003ea-FL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:59:49 -0400 Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q59so3652690wes.6 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 04:59:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130928103048.GO12411@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Suvayu Ali Cc: emacs-orgmode list --001a11c23ee2f7c24604e7705665 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, 2013/9/28 Suvayu Ali > Your example is not beginner's tutorial at all! Nor is it something > that the manual can cover. > I do not understand why. Every beginner intested in org-mode is interested for such or such application, and that's a strange reply to make to a beginner like me to reply : "sorry but your request is not a beginner's request". And if I am interested in org-mode mainly for the feature? > For esoteric/specific needs like this > "advanced tutorials" are more appropriate. > I have not found a clear tutorial to help me on this point, and even in the org-mode manual, the relationship between org-mode and emacs email client like gnus is very difficult to understand. Again, I have not seen an easy example to follow. > > Now to answer your question, I have seen people mention htmlize.el from > contrib for something like this. To integrate with LaTeX, you should be > able work out a solution with some dvipng magic. If memory serves me > right, there was a post from Eric[1] mentioning how to use htmlize from > gnus, and a thread on dvipng in the last month. Those might help you. > Thanks for this reference, I have tried these commands on a draft in my gnus, of course nothing work. I suspect that I need to configure gnus before... My point in this discussion was to pointing out that it is not only structure of tutorials can be a problem, but the content of explanations. Again, if no example is given for each task that one can realize with org-mode, only geeks expert in emacs will be able to read manuals for org-mode, and in my opinion it's too bad. Best wishes, Jo. --001a11c23ee2f7c24604e7705665 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

2013/9/28 Suvayu Ali = <fatkas= uvayu+linux@gmail.com>
Your example = is not beginner's tutorial at all! =C2=A0Nor is it something
that the manual can cover.

I do not = understand why. Every beginner intested in org-mode is interested for such = or such application, and that's a strange reply to make to a beginner l= ike me to reply : "sorry but your request is not a beginner's requ= est". And if I am interested in org-mode mainly for the feature?=C2=A0=

=C2=A0
=C2=A0For esoteric/specific needs like this
"advanced tutorials" are more appropriate.
=

I have not found a clear tutorial to help me on this po= int, and even in the org-mode manual, the relationship between org-mode and= emacs email client like gnus is very difficult to understand. Again, I hav= e not seen an easy example to follow.=C2=A0
=C2=A0

Now to answer your question, I have seen people mention htmlize.el from
contrib for something like this. =C2=A0To integrate with LaTeX, you should = be
able work out a solution with some dvipng magic. =C2=A0If memory serves me<= br> right, there was a post from Eric[1] mentioning how to use htmlize from
gnus, and a thread on dvipng in the last month. =C2=A0Those might help you.=

Thanks for this reference, I have tr= ied these commands on a draft in my gnus, of course nothing work. I suspect= that I need to configure gnus before... =C2=A0

My point in this discussion was to pointing out that it= is not only structure of tutorials =C2=A0can be a problem, but the content= of explanations. Again, if no example is given for each task that one can = realize with org-mode, only geeks expert in emacs will be able to read manu= als for org-mode, and in my opinion it's too bad.=C2=A0

Best wishes,

Jo.=C2=A0


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