From: Ilya Shlyakhter <ilya_shl@alum.mit.edu>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: BeOrg
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 14:48:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACfYvRadb2-QrXjzyCMr9aSDRuc8hB5JH9VntvVdQjn_xUdOYQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877et0m5im.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
>as GNU software, we should not suggest to use non-free software
But, clearly, we already do: suggesting to use MobileOrg necessarily
suggests to use iOS.
Besides, some of the main critiques of non-free software do not apply
here: e.g. beorg doesn't lock the user into some proprietary format.
And while it may be unethical to lure unsophisticated computer users
into freedom-relinquishing decisions the consequences of which they
may not fully grasp, most Org users are sophisticated enough to make
an intelligent and informed choice.
GNU itself distributes Emacs for Windows from its main site (
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/windows/ ), so there's a balance of
considerations. I think here the balance tips in favor of mentioning
beOrg. I've tried MobileOrg and gave up on it, while beOrg is more
usable; judging by the reviews, others had a similar impression.
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> ilya shlyakhter <ilya239@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Neither is iOS or MATLAB, and yet the Org manual mentions both.
>
> We have good reasons for that. The former is because MobileOrg, which
> uses "org-mobile.el", provided by Org, and therefore, documented. The
> latter is because "ob-matab.el", which is free software.
>
> OTOH, as GNU software, we should not suggest to use non-free software.
> Besides, it is not related to any library in our source code.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-02 19:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-02 17:32 BeOrg Ilya Shlyakhter
2018-01-02 17:39 ` BeOrg Eric S Fraga
2018-01-02 17:52 ` BeOrg ilya shlyakhter
2018-01-02 19:20 ` BeOrg Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-02 19:48 ` Ilya Shlyakhter [this message]
2018-01-02 20:43 ` BeOrg Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-02 22:17 ` BeOrg Peter Davis
2018-01-03 0:30 ` BeOrg Thomas S. Dye
2018-01-03 2:06 ` BeOrg Ian Dunn
2018-01-03 2:43 ` BeOrg Ilya Shlyakhter
2018-01-03 5:00 ` BeOrg Scott Randby
2018-01-03 20:00 ` BeOrg Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2018-01-03 8:26 ` BeOrg Tim Cross
2018-01-03 19:58 ` BeOrg Adonay Felipe Nogueira
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2018-01-05 2:08 BeOrg edgar
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