From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tim Cross Subject: Re: [org] different key binding between GUI emacs and emacs -nw Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 12:38:28 +1000 Message-ID: References: <3B861CE1-37F6-4310-B15C-6F1365B99E09@gmail.com> <8737bm7s7u.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <06B97E3A-230B-42FF-AAC9-A6EE2FEC9024@gmail.com> <4526988d-c38b-4c62-6b8b-6ce9a9aed8bd@gmail.com> <6AC9C7B2-CE3F-46ED-B004-360E3138C06E@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1147991ebd4c280550c8d0b2" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50517) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFtWp-0002oU-5u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 22:38:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFtWo-0002FA-2u for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 22:38:31 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-x244.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::244]:36497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFtWn-0002Es-Tt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 22:38:30 -0400 Received: by mail-qk0-x244.google.com with SMTP id y128so383171qka.3 for ; Tue, 30 May 2017 19:38:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6AC9C7B2-CE3F-46ED-B004-360E3138C06E@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Jean-Christophe Helary Cc: Scott Randby , Org-mode , "Charles C. Berry" --001a1147991ebd4c280550c8d0b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It is certainly a weird issue. I can't see how org-mode would behave differently at the OS level from other emacs package bindings. Likewise, there is nothing different or unusual about how org-mode does key bindings. If there was a problem at the OS, window manager or interface library (i.e. gtk) level, it should affect all bindings. I'm sure this has been checked, but make sure it isn't the window manager/OS 'stealing' the keys. When I install emacs on any system, the first thing I do is use the OS or window manager facilities to remove/disable any OS/window manager shortcuts so that the key presses get passed through to Emacs. I doubt this is the problem because if it was, you would see the same issue iwth other Emacs modes/packages, not just org-mode. Unless someone can produce a minimum example which can reproduce this issue, I don't even see where to start. I shold have mentioned that the version of Ubuntu I use is Gnome and I build emacs with GTK. I should also mention that Ubuntu (well Debian really) install a versino of emacs which is customized and not stock-stnadard emacs. Also, my macOS version of emcs is built using brew install and not brew cask install, so it is built from the git repo and not using the macforosx binaries the cask version uses. Tim On 31 May 2017 at 08:44, Jean-Christophe Helary < jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On May 31, 2017, at 7:28, Tim Cross wrote: > > > > Just add my confirmation that I have no issues with GUI bindings on > either MacOS Sierra with emacs 25.2 and org 9.0.7 or under Linux with > Ubuntu 17.04 (same emacs and org versions). > > There were *some* people on help-emacs that could reproduce the issue on > GTK+ and Xubuntu, I'm not saying it's everybody :) > > > What happens if > > > > 1. You use emacs -q and just load the version of org which is bundled > with emacs? > > I've checked -Q with the bundled files and I get the same result. > > > 2. you use emacs -q and just load latest org from elpa? > > I always keep my packages up to date so I guess I have the latest package. > I'll check. > > Jean-Christophe -- regards, Tim -- Tim Cross --001a1147991ebd4c280550c8d0b2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It is certainly a weird issue.=C2=A0

I = can't see how org-mode would behave differently at the OS level from ot= her emacs package bindings. Likewise, there is nothing different or unusual= about how org-mode does key bindings. If there was a problem at the OS, wi= ndow manager or interface library (i.e. gtk) level, it should affect all bi= ndings.=C2=A0

I'm sure this has been checked, = but make sure it isn't the window manager/OS 'stealing' the key= s. When I install emacs on any system, the first thing I do is use the OS o= r window manager facilities to remove/disable any OS/window manager shortcu= ts so that the key presses get passed through to Emacs. I doubt this is the= problem because if it was, you would see the same issue iwth other Emacs m= odes/packages, not just org-mode.=C2=A0

Unless som= eone can produce a minimum example which can reproduce this issue, I don= 9;t even see where to start.=C2=A0

I shold have me= ntioned that the version of Ubuntu I use is Gnome and I build emacs with GT= K.=C2=A0

I should also mention that Ubuntu (well D= ebian really) install a versino of emacs which is customized and not stock-= stnadard emacs. Also, my macOS version of emcs is built using brew install = and not brew cask install, so it is built from the git repo and not using t= he macforosx binaries the cask version uses.=C2=A0

Tim

O= n 31 May 2017 at 08:44, Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christ= ophe.helary@gmail.com> wrote:

> On May 31, 2017, at 7:28, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Just add my confirmation that I have no issues with GUI bindings on ei= ther MacOS Sierra with emacs 25.2 and org 9.0.7 or under Linux with Ubuntu = 17.04 (same emacs and org versions).

There were *some* people on help-emacs that could reproduce the issu= e on GTK+ and Xubuntu, I'm not saying it's everybody :)

> What happens if
>
> 1. You use emacs -q and just load the version of org which is bundled = with emacs?

I've checked -Q with the bundled files and I get the same result= .

> 2. you use emacs -q and just load latest org from elpa?

I always keep my packages up to date so I guess I have the latest pa= ckage. I'll check.

Jean-Christophe



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