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From: Grant Rettke <gcr@wisdomandwonder.com>
To: Fabrice Niessen <fni-news@pirilampo.org>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on weaving variable documentation
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:00:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAjq1mcayM9=yzzoOr-wAbahmOj2Jnmdxt+OO0CvYQ9J6ZkUdA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864mzacxi5.fsf@somewhere.org>

Fabrice,

Thank you for sharing that kind reminder and true inspiration.

Looking forward to your results.

Kind regards,

gcr
Grant Rettke | ACM, ASA, FSF, IEEE, SIAM
gcr@wisdomandwonder.com | http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/
“Wisdom begins in wonder.” --Socrates
((λ (x) (x x)) (λ (x) (x x)))
“Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop
taking it seriously.” --Thompson


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Fabrice Niessen <fni-news@pirilampo.org> wrote:
> Hello Grant,
>
>> A lot of people are weaving their Emacs init files for the obvious
>> reason: it is difficult to remember why
>> we configured stuff and other people definitely won't know why we did
>> it. There is a common operation
>> that occurs though when other people read our Emacs init:
>>
>> 1. They open it up in Emacs
>> 2. Find what looks interesting
>> 3. Do a C-h f or C-h v on it and learn about it
>>
>> Makes total sense.
>>
>> What I got curious about is for this specific use case, people
>> scanning other people's configs, how I could make it easier.
>
> Remember the following quote of Knuth:
>
>   ╭────
>   │ Let us change our traditional attitude to the construction of
>   │ programs: Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct
>   │ a computer what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining to
>   │ human beings what we want a computer to do.
>   │
>   │ The practitioner of literate programming can be regarded as an
>   │ essayist, whose main concern is with exposition and excellence of
>   │ style. Such an author, with thesaurus in hand, chooses the names of
>   │ variables carefully and explains what each variable means. He or she
>   │ strives for a program that is comprehensible because its concepts
>   │ have been introduced in an order that is best for human
>   │ understanding, using a mixture of formal and informal methods that
>   │ reinforce each other.
>   ╰────
>
> Hence, for me, people scanning your config should read the document that
> you've made therefore (that is, the weaved document), not the file
> that's made for a computer (that is, the tangle document).
>
> If there are parts you don't want others to see, tag them as
> ":noexport:" or similar more subtle ways.
>
> As a guy convinced by LP, I wouldn't invest much time into facilitating
> the reading of the tangled file; I would, on the opposite, invest a lot
> of time (and I did -- results will be public soon on my Web site and on
> GitHub!) on the weaved document, by improving CSS for the HTML version
> and LaTeX styles.
>
>> A thought is to weave the docstrings for variables right into the
>> weaved file any time a variable is set. I am thinking something like
>> this:
>>
>> 1. When the weave occurs
>> 2. Look at each line of code that starts with a setq
>> 3. Look up the docstring for the variable
>> 4. TBD: Weave that documentation into the output.
>>
>> That is the idea, at least.
>>
>> My question is:
>> 1. What are the standard mechanisms to do something like this within
>> the ob lifecycle?
>> 2. What do you think in general?
>
> Best regards,
> Fabrice
>
> --
> Fabrice Niessen
> Leuven, Belgium
> http://www.pirilampo.org/
>
>

      reply	other threads:[~2014-06-24 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-20 16:10 Thoughts on weaving variable documentation Grant Rettke
2014-06-20 16:11 ` Grant Rettke
2014-06-21  5:58 ` Aaron Ecay
2014-06-21 23:20   ` Grant Rettke
2014-06-24 12:17 ` Fabrice Niessen
2014-06-24 14:00   ` Grant Rettke [this message]

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