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From: George Mauer <gmauer@gmail.com>
To: Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Using backticks for the inline code delimeter?
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:51:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+pajW+hs5Te5XFUwk1zumQmc=CvWBuxMffQrnyu_zQgzi1Tdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGY83EfakT4080QQBvV2Ex-SxtYH_pJR9ywaTgXp--jeFdShsQ@mail.gmail.com>

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The point I'm making is that this is already the de-facto thing. People on
this email list do it, people in talking in irc and in forums do it. I
don't think it has so much to do with markdown documents as it does with
Slack, Discord, Teams, even google chat adopting that convention. All our
fingers are getting trained to backticks everywhere *except* org documents.
As those already have trained us to use this construction, it might be a
good idea to just swallow the pill.

I don't think there's much of a slippery slope here. Most popular chat
programs don't support making headings markdown-style for example, and even
if they did I don't see many people attempting to use that.

Trying to enumerate syntax that I feel falls squarely in this category I
come up with only a few

- lists with dashes, org supports that just fine
*bold text* with stars, again org already does this
`backtick code`, org doesn't handle this and actually uses the tilde as a
delimeter which is extra jarring since its a strikethrough in many chat apps

That's really it. You could maybe also argue
> gt for quotation - that would be be nice as we're used to it from email
as well, but I don't see people using it all that much

but that's really it as far as common usage right now. Sure that list might
grow as different usages become common, but I would hope org is not against
evolving in small and reasonable ways as the expectations of users shift.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 3:31 PM Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org> wrote:

> The approach I've taken is to try and stop using Markdown altogether and
> write everything in Org, exporting to Markdown for those destinations that
> need it.
>
> You could even use https://github.com/tecosaur/org-pandoc-import to
> automatically convert/reconvert other formats as needed, and
> https://github.com/tecosaur/emacs-everywhere to do it even in other
> applications.
>
> It's not perfect - I still have to type Markdown sometimes, but you
> can eventually start losing the ingrained backtick habit :)
>
> --Diego
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 8:49 PM George Mauer <gmauer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Markdown uses backticks to denote inline code which should get special
>> (typically monospace) formatting, org uses the tilde character.
>>
>> Now I know that org is not markdown, is far more powerful than markdown,
>> and is not (mostly) the same use cases as markdown. But this one use case
>> *does* overlap. And the backticks thing is becoming so ingrained that not
>> only do I reach for it all the time, but I've seen it crop up on this very
>> mailing list and even in some README.org documents.
>>
>> I would like to submit that org consider adopting backticks as an
>> alternate way of denoting inline code.
>>
>> Aside from any official movement, I would like to add this to my own
>> files - is there a straightforward way to extend the org parser to do this?
>>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-31 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-31 18:48 George Mauer
2021-03-31 19:16 ` autofrettage
2021-03-31 19:19   ` Timothy
2021-04-01  6:03     ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-04-20 13:30     ` Matt Price
2021-04-20 20:24       ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 22:37         ` Matt Price
2021-04-20 22:30       ` Tim Cross
2021-04-21 19:22         ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 19:49           ` Tim Cross
2021-03-31 19:24 ` Sébastien Miquel
2021-04-01 16:49   ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-01 17:05     ` Timothy
2021-04-01 18:43       ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-01 23:14         ` Tim Cross
2021-04-01 23:30           ` Joost Kremers
2021-04-02  0:28             ` Tim Cross
2021-04-04  1:13               ` Tom Gillespie
2021-04-04 10:03                 ` Joost Kremers
2021-04-04 12:19                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-04 16:46                     ` Bill Burdick
2021-04-04 17:24                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-04 19:33                     ` Joost Kremers
2021-04-04 23:06                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-06 15:03                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-19  9:27                           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-03-31 19:28 ` Timothy
2021-03-31 19:55   ` autofrettage
2021-03-31 20:31 ` Diego Zamboni
2021-03-31 21:51   ` George Mauer [this message]
2021-03-31 22:27     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-03-31 22:38       ` Tim Cross
2021-04-01  0:25         ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-01  1:11 ` Bill Burdick
2021-04-01  3:42 ` Greg Minshall
2021-04-01  9:32   ` autofrettage
2021-04-02 11:23     ` Andreas Eder
2021-04-04 17:06       ` Maxim Nikulin
2022-03-19  3:17 chris
2022-03-19  3:24 ` chris

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