From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Noah Slater Subject: Re: Org clock cookies Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 12:23:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87vbu85p5j.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305b13de9588e204f73a6b2a Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48609) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WajTT-0006ST-9Q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:23:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WajTM-0007WK-HC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:23:19 -0400 Received: from mail-yk0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::233]:51315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WajTM-0007VY-Be for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 06:23:12 -0400 Received: by mail-yk0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 9so160954ykp.10 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:23:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --20cf305b13de9588e204f73a6b2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I should add: I'm doing this because I don't like the org-clock-display. I have detailed this in another post, but in summary: - It doesn't work very well with indent turned on (I have a sort of patch for this) - Alignment of the the numbers seems wrong - It messes up the "..." when you fold a node - Headlines are not editable (I customised the font face after sending my previous email on this topic.) Even if we manage to fix org-clock-display (and I am willing to help) I think cookies feel very natural here also. Not sure what to do about estimates. On 17 April 2014 12:17, Noah Slater wrote: > I don't use estimates, so I hadn't thought about that. > > "[01:10]" would mean I had spent 1hr 10m on this node, and all subnodes. > Similarly, "[2d 01:10]" would mean I had spent 2d, 1hr, and 10m on this > node, and all subnodes. > > I've already started hacking on this, and can share the patch if it's > something you're interested in reviewing/integrating. > > > On 17 April 2014 10:35, Bastien wrote: > >> Hi Noah, >> >> Noah Slater writes: >> >> > Would it be possible to code a similar cookie ("[:]" to be expanded >> > into "01:10" for example) that you could update with C-c C-c, or >> > better yet, automatically! >> >> Would this [01:10] cookie mean that you spent one minute on ten >> minutes of efforts? >> >> The question is more to give you a chance to convince me, >> because while I find the idea quite appealing, I think we're >> growing a bit too fat cookie-wise. >> >> -- >> Bastien >> > > --20cf305b13de9588e204f73a6b2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I should add: I'm doing this because I don't like the org-clock-d= isplay.
I have detailed = this in another post, but in summary:

- It doesn't work very well with indent turned on (I have a sort of pat= ch for this)
- Alignment of the the numbers seems wrong
- It messes up the "..." when you fold a node
- Headlines are not editable

(I customised the font face after sending my previous email on this topic.)=

=
Even if we manag= e to fix org-clock-display (and I am willing to help) I think cookies feel = very natural here also.

Not sure what to do ab= out estimates.


On 17 April 2014 12:17, Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org> wrote:
I don't use estimates, so I hadn't thought about = that.

=
"[01:10]" would mean I had spent 1hr 10m on this node, and all su= bnodes. Similarly, "[2d 01:10]" would mean I had spent 2d, 1hr, a= nd 10m on this node, and all subnodes.

I'= ve already started hacking on this, and can share the patch if it's som= ething you're interested in reviewing/integrating.


On 17 April 2014 10:35, = Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
Hi Noah,

Noah Slater <n= slater@tumbolia.org> writes:

> Would it be possible to code a similar cookie ("[:]" to be e= xpanded
> into "01:10" for example) that you could update with C-c C-c= , or
> better yet, automatically!

Would this [01:10] cookie mean that you spent one minute on ten
minutes of efforts?

The question is more to give you a chance to convince me,
because while I find the idea quite appealing, I think we're
growing a bit too fat cookie-wise.

--
=A0Bastien


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