From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id QNmMIpPjQWPsOAEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 22:54:43 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8PalIpPjQWOEbAEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 22:54:43 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DF1047900 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2022 22:54:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50500 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohGqI-0006Xp-Db for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 16:54:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39224) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohGpR-0006XT-61 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 16:53:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43126) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohGpQ-0006HH-Tp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 16:53:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=To:Subject:Date:From:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version; bh=0giVDUpBhnFGSCqQ12HOrHE11meC00NIJ5qtWiEDP9Y=; b=PcSbgWpm8qa5 MKVPzqx8tbUKnGlhil9Ngq1dmmBMG5PA0JjIlelJqXcbut944FpptlZ0bt5HIxbXx4WPq+20+uznb bBnVPlZPOliOfjKeeFp5gy3r+MkQlj/xdjPDmU0hu7EJbXL8OhCiK9sWTTfZcAvWRnKqS5FNtkSIt DEJzgsJn8cETj1ViA2T999/FXSAum4/cUWLCwlOz4LuDxvec491iVjCMgrksDx0JFgz93xZzsXlu9 9SU57e6PM2q7sBN96zg1yGxqoFOLAmgg1Zf7sIcexVqoAJeOnvz7JpcvMPBBcRj2TAV9QgiISni2/ 59pbz3ufx4VwVbcveiNyrQ==; Received: from mail-vk1-f179.google.com ([209.85.221.179]:46841) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohGpQ-0007jU-LP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 16:53:48 -0400 Received: by mail-vk1-f179.google.com with SMTP id u204so1208541vkb.13 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 13:53:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf3QbsVHfg4gfBeF2mCi8GX54LczgRj46p/HEj1OtaAGrpV0jvaf 8rTs/g7HFR2lWBz64/CGHpWHDttEmLM4T9A9sB0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM5m5S1nPaLc980vGphLsXKTWZnV92eptkuLyg6taJWxZzMX9Np9x9j/HKUWUDXqH9Z/IkzgVhrLZQgzc14bdoY= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:1f85:0:b0:3a7:f248:ee56 with SMTP id f127-20020a1f1f85000000b003a7f248ee56mr5622066vkf.3.1665262428128; Sat, 08 Oct 2022 13:53:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <813D3F10-3E3C-497F-9FD8-FE0DA13C2970@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Robert Weiner Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 16:53:21 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Org and Hyperbole To: David Masterson Cc: Samuel Wales , emacs-org list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007c8c5805ea8c1fc8" X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1665262483; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=0giVDUpBhnFGSCqQ12HOrHE11meC00NIJ5qtWiEDP9Y=; b=pgUVqnOJyJw/q9v96MM3mTnedSZYMOBRSfxt55gK3urZIs6s+v1oCO9SDo44yKhxppWLeH oacuJAPHqcmS0KwbrX7dtDvEJd7bAZ2Pt5UycgP+4FISje/A+nbaaW8+QXCS/cXynKdtDr Y26V8HqzZfd/IYYda99zBFtL9wXVPMLheYnA7TjiwBnJavSfDAGqz93M+IcZCqCpbfO96F QOa1KILm8aG6AFiDD1QXTRdoLXXtoqt8Jdr8J9Iraa3+2Z9R4z+41QIWZvKOOuHp74aaBo LEGJ+LDmJzWImmDBojXJMRy7FyjXCASUF6QGQ6JKVwuqkIjV/JZk/DkRSBKFVA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1665262483; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=BtshlC/18/6Cq21ZCEdCnp9W0xSnsL6pfzQ65b4BPsrSzpm35UUBvkG99OzEtj53wcrdVM V8qlrPrsUZnVXWqfQrVxZh3VDsaEufCUVjitRxI59SMl0w5mC1y7ud5QT7PRV3dqeGbrzi lq4DSOcWa4FZIyrdjiobBld2afUWKQRMHIgNLp42aZVsNzxWf3+V9Mpv860apfkCMWwIOM 5/x/4+7RJHGqGNCwR7lxgKQABTI5KuRibLOyGrk262YST2p8iLk0i0XYlgasHCba0QMnsj ufZHOP+9Ybzfwi6xB2w0T58zBF+rKr6pYnMXGBWbi5ESvr29CCraTsCnWWGtXg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=PcSbgWpm; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.18 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=PcSbgWpm; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3DF1047900 X-Spam-Score: -5.18 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: Cf0fLQ4ksFvp --0000000000007c8c5805ea8c1fc8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Task management is a whole area separate from note taking. This was something I was interested in many years ago but have not been able to publish a system to implement my ideas therein. Since people generally seem to be happy with Org's todo and agenda features, we expect to just interact with those from Hyperbole. But for notes, yes, one needs to capture them quickly and then get back to your former context. Later on you can process them more fully. Although I see the great utility in having capabilities on mobile devices, I find most apps way underpowered for constant use. As Emacs becomes more usable on mobile devices, we can add more mobile-friendly features to Hyperbole. -- rsw On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 2:06 PM David Masterson wrote: > Robert Weiner writes: > > > We welcome brief summaries of features you need for effective note > > taking in Emacs. We are not looking to do much with images or on > > mobile devices, just focused on people who spend a lot of time in > > Emacs and want an easy-to-use notes system that does not require any > > external packages like SQLite. > > One major use-case for Org is capturing a task quickly. This can be > done with Org or Mobile-Org (BeOrg, Orgzly). One feature not easily > available is attaching images to the task to better explain the task. > > Thoughts on this? > > -- > David Masterson > --0000000000007c8c5805ea8c1fc8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Task management is a whole area separate from note taking.=C2= =A0 This was something I was interested in many years ago but have not been= able to publish a system to implement my ideas therein.=C2=A0 Since people= generally seem to be happy with Org's todo and agenda features, we exp= ect to just interact with those from Hyperbole.

But for notes, yes, = one needs to capture them quickly and then get back to your former context.= =C2=A0 Later on you can process them more fully.

Although I see the = great utility in having capabilities on mobile devices, I find most apps wa= y underpowered for constant use.=C2=A0 As Emacs becomes more usable on mobi= le devices, we can add more mobile-friendly features to Hyperbole.

-= - rsw

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 2:06 PM David Masterson <dsmasterson@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Robert Weiner <rsw@gnu.org> writes:

> We welcome brief summaries of features you need for effective note
> taking in Emacs.=C2=A0 We are not looking to do much with images or on=
> mobile devices, just focused on people who spend a lot of time in
> Emacs and want an easy-to-use notes system that does not require any > external packages like SQLite.

One major use-case for Org is capturing a task quickly.=C2=A0 This can be done with Org or Mobile-Org (BeOrg, Orgzly).=C2=A0 One feature not easily available is attaching images to the task to better explain the task.

Thoughts on this?

--
David Masterson
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