From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id IPPzBxyytWLtZAAAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 14:46:20 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id 6BXNBxyytWKrQAEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 14:46:20 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AC2919490 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 14:46:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57302 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o4ihS-0006Q1-JC for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 08:46:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54308) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o4ifk-0006O8-7c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 08:44:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o4ifj-0003Fs-Um for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 08:44:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=To:Subject:Date:From:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version; bh=yGzxV4pnnwX42gmUTFJCqGSoitI3r/QwGM+tTBl3I2k=; b=bp0D+HSIAVIm z4LhtAj7iD+zx9STcRplm5B1GNa+CaK/Bce4sjQhXw53OGotheYT9Pc9TkJ4V5M3RKbEdYIAp9Hao 21KXWixIQ8j9WDGinkfDC6QEeLBOUfxSzwPp/qDQAPV0Ul9DkMpc/HSg+N3CJuPbBCuaAgT0Ul/tR UxmH+dt6c4O8JvIO9SEjhK2ja/mZl0nP9XfdTxoV4hZ+IJpMiLjOq+3VXsl3zoV4PdN8qGTy61lty jpSkavdORM3WlTy0zhwC7s6NbTYBx8sVPOj3Bb1uM98hE5E6nRGvpWwQosezTK+hasj3tUe8GBzhz yDUU9zKt0KzFHcRczOU/Ww==; Received: from mail-yw1-f170.google.com ([209.85.128.170]:36400) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o4ifj-0000jx-NR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 08:44:27 -0400 Received: by mail-yw1-f170.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-3176d94c236so23738877b3.3 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 05:44:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora+MiY0Gqb8fP9bI1OjQUJzwf+6V9G2zPHzkc7/VJiWduHTuGMej CfaXRZxzrksH3Ci7scfq31XRthqc/BYmq2VrNCc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1tEgKrraoIHC2gNdK31kIL3zJXYZwioCkXjSyqdamnPh2z55gTf6JGZT4Ckm+PCRUskC2gmCqovmDd8BsZv4Bc= X-Received: by 2002:a81:60c1:0:b0:318:3988:338b with SMTP id u184-20020a8160c1000000b003183988338bmr16361767ywb.12.1656074667163; Fri, 24 Jun 2022 05:44:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <877d56imyo.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <877d56imyo.fsf@gmail.com> From: Robert Weiner Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2022 08:44:01 -0400 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Org and Hyperbole To: Tim Cross Cc: emacs-org list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004204ff05e230eeea" X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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It is funny you mention a dashboard as that is the main next feature we are working on for Hyperbole. Presently, there is a 'personal button file' that serves as your launch pad for any commonly used hyperbuttons, accessed with {C-h h b p}. There is a similar per directory file, {C-h h b d}, any of which can be Org files or any format you prefer. To augment the personal file, we plan on adding a quick access menu to search, jump to and edit your personal, commonly used Hyperbole, Emacs and Org constructs that would serve as a dashboard, bringing together a lot of the hyper capabilities distributed throughout Emacs, including all categories of Hyperbole buttons, Org files, bookmarks, URLs, agenda items, notes, todos, etc. And each type will be customizable so you can use your favorite feature whether from Org, Hyperbole or another package. It is in early development now, so feel free to mention any wishlist items. On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 2:44 AM Tim Cross wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > welcome to the list. > > I find hyperbole very interesting and am trying it out now. I can see a > few areas where I think it may augment my current org based workflows > and development tasks. > > One thing I will be looking at is how well hyperbole works with an > evil-mode based configuration. Probably no big effect with regards to > basic links and things like the interesting roladex type system, but may > be relevant with regards to koutline. > > At this stage, I'm thinking hyperbole might be good as a basic > 'dashboard' type startup screen which makes selecting projects or Emacs > based apps (like this mu4e environment) easy to select. I likely won't > take advantage of the window/frame management stuff as I now tend to > work mainly with emacs tabs - I rarely even split windows anymore and > now tend to just have one big frame with many tabs or tab groups. > > It will be interesting to see if there are areas where org mode and > hyperbole may further enhance each other. I see them as having good > collaboration potential rather than as competing/conflicting systems. > > --0000000000004204ff05e230eeea Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tim:

Great to see you working with Org and Hyperbole= together.=C2=A0 It is funny you mention a dashboard as that is the main ne= xt feature we are working on for Hyperbole.=C2=A0 Presently, there is a = 9;personal button file' that serves as your launch pad=C2=A0for any com= monly used hyperbuttons, accessed with {C-h h b p}.=C2=A0 There=C2=A0is a s= imilar per directory file, {C-h h b d}, any of which can be Org files or an= y format you prefer.=C2=A0 To augment the personal file, we plan on adding = a quick access menu to search, jump to and edit your personal, commonly use= d Hyperbole, Emacs and Org constructs that would serve as a dashboard, brin= ging together a lot of the hyper capabilities distributed throughout Emacs,= including all categories of Hyperbole buttons, Org files, bookmarks, URLs,= agenda items, notes, todos, etc. And each type will be customizable so you= can use your favorite feature whether from Org, Hyperbole or another packa= ge.=C2=A0 It is in early development now, so feel free to mention any wishl= ist items.



On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 2:44 AM Tim Cross <= ;theophilusx@gmail.com> wro= te:

Hi Robert,

welcome to the list.

I find hyperbole very interesting and am trying it out now. I can see a
few areas where I think it may augment my current org based workflows
and development tasks.

One thing I will be looking at is how well hyperbole works with an
evil-mode based configuration. Probably no big effect with regards to
basic links and things like the interesting roladex type system, but may be relevant with regards to koutline.

At this stage, I'm thinking hyperbole might be good as a basic
'dashboard' type startup screen which makes selecting projects or E= macs
based apps (like this mu4e environment) easy to select. I likely won't<= br> take advantage of the window/frame management stuff as I now tend to
work mainly with emacs tabs - I rarely even split windows anymore and
now tend to just have one big frame with many tabs or tab groups.

It will be interesting to see if there are areas where org mode and
hyperbole may further enhance each other. I see them as having good
collaboration potential rather than as competing/conflicting systems.

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