On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 3:06 AM Payas Relekar <relekarpayas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Robert Weiner <rsw@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Thanks, Jean.  We have started work on a note-taking subsystem for
> > Hyperbole that will store UUIDs per note and will likely support
> backlinks
> > too.  We are seeing if we can make it support Koutlines, Emacs Outlines,
> > Org mode files and Markdown files, searching across all formats at the
> same
> > time.  The default for creating new notes will likely be a personal
> > Koutline file.
>
> Not Jean, but as someone using Org with Hyperbole, this is a great news!
>

Good to hear.  Maybe you can provide early feedback when it hits the
Hyperbole pre-release in the elpa-devel package archive (pre-releases of
Hyperbole packaged up from the git master branch tip).

>
> > We welcome brief summaries of features you need for effective note taking
> > in Emacs.  We are not looking to do much with images or on mobile
> devices,
> > just focused on people who spend a lot of time in Emacs and want an
> > easy-to-use notes system that does not require any external packages like
> > SQLite.
>
> For my 2c:
>
> - Multiple small files vs single large file.
>   I currently have former, with org-roam taking care of finding, linking
>   and backlinking between files, making it a non-issue to easily build a
>   network of connected topics/thoughts
>

Yes.  It will search over many files and even recursive directories of
files.  Org-roam has a good model for rapid searching, so we'll have to
consider something similar.  It might not be in the first release but will
come by the second major release.

>
> - Daily notes
>   Every day gets its own note, only generated if visited. This allows
>   dumping the thoughts at that moment rather than first hunting the
>   correct node. Then they can be easily filtered into actual topic note,
>   or just be referenced via backlinks buffer
>

Each note will have an optional datetime stamp which will be on by
default.  If you care to make one note per day, you can do that.

>
> - sqlite might just be better, considering overhead of opening and
>   parsing hundreds-thousands of small files is non-negligible.
>

Yes, that is the reason for desiring some kind of database-backed indexing.

>
> - Refiling
>   Refile/move the subtree (in Org terms) can be easily moved to another
>   file and the links automatically point to new location. This means I
>   can always know rearranging stuff later is a possibility, and its less
>   cognitive burden to organize.
>

Yes.  The idea is that you initially capture notes into a single default
file and then can quickly refile them as needed.

>
> In short, the framework takes care of organization and makes retrieval
> easy and all I have to worry about is the content.
>

Yes, I think we typically do this throughout Hyperbole, as it is very
important to us.

Thanks for the thoughts.

-- rsw