From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Way to replace normal tabular env with booktabs? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:21:50 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517592c26685f0804b668bf9f Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54518) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rlh4y-0000wA-FB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:22:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rlh4s-0000DM-Aa for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:22:00 -0500 Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:52866) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rlh4r-0000D9-SC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:21:54 -0500 Received: by bkuw5 with SMTP id w5so2694416bku.0 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 05:21:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: "Thomas S. Dye" Cc: emacs-orgmode --001517592c26685f0804b668bf9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > Hi John, > > The Library of Babel comes with your Org-mode distribution. > > You'll find it at /contrib/babel/library-of-babel.org > > I guess you learn something new every day! > In the org file, look for > * Tables > ** LaTeX Table Export > > There should be functions booktabs and booktabs-notes. > > One way to use booktabs is described here: > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html#sec-13-2 > > I'll check these out. Looked at the worg howto. Not a huge fan of the method, especially with hiding my tables, but I'll give it a shot. I figure there's got to be a simpler way; just change the first \hline -> \toprule and the bottom one to \bottomrule; \midrules in between. Thanks again, John > hth, > Tom > > John Hendy writes: > > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > > > >> Hi John, > >> > >> Agreed, booktabs makes good looking tables. > >> > >> Check out your Library of Babel. There should be a couple of functions > >> there that will help you go from Org mode to booktabs. > >> > >> > > Haven't done much with babel other than writing code blocks. Do you mean > > this page? > > --- http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/library-of-babel.html > > > > Thanks for the suggestion. Feeling a bit lost, but am happy to look > around > > for something that seems similar. I have no elisp-fu, so it'll need to be > > pretty darn similar :) > > > > > > John > > > > > >> hth, > >> Tom > >> > >> John Hendy writes: > >> > >> > Greetings, > >> > > >> > > >> > I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on tables the > other > >> > day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the "Professional > >> > tables" section. [1] [2] > >> > > >> > I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since one of my > column > >> > headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the > \hlines > >> > extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as the > >> booktabs > >> > package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the table. I > >> ended > >> > up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. > >> > > >> > Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? The > >> > formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs > >> > package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of > >> \hlines. > >> > In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of > the > >> > booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" tabular table. > >> > > >> > Any thoughts on this? > >> > > >> > > >> > Best regards, > >> > John > >> > > >> > ----- > >> > [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables > >> > [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/booktabs/ > >> > Greetings,I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on > tables > >> the other day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the > >> "Professional tables" section. [1] [2] > >> > I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since one of my > >> column headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the > >> \hlines extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as > the > >> booktabs package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the > table. > >> I ended up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. > >> > Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? The > >> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs > >> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of > \hlines. > >> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of the > >> booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" tabular table. > >> > Any thoughts on this?Best regards,John-----[1] > >> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables > >> > [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/booktabs/ > >> > >> -- > >> Thomas S. Dye > >> http://www.tsdye.com > >> > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S. Dye tsd@tsdye.com> wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > Agreed, booktabs makes good looking tables. > > > > Check out your Library of Babel. There should be a couple of functions > > there that will help you go from Org mode to booktabs. > > Haven't done much with babel other than writing code blocks. Do you > mean this page?--- > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/library-of-babel.html > > Thanks for the suggestion. Feeling a bit lost, but am happy to look > around for something that seems similar. I have no elisp-fu, so it'll > need to be pretty darn similar :) > > John > > hth, > > Tom > > > > John Hendy writes: > > > >> Greetings, > >> > >> > >> I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on tables the other > >> day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the "Professional > >> tables" section. [1] [2] > >> > >> I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since one of my > column > >> headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the \hlines > >> extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as the > booktabs > >> package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the table. I > ended > >> up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. > >> > >> Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? The > >> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs > >> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of > \hlines. > >> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of the > >> booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" tabular table. > >> > >> Any thoughts on this? > >> > >> > >> Best regards, > >> John > >> > >> ----- > >> [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables > >> [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/booktabs/ > >> Greetings,I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on > tables the other day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the > "Professional tables" section. [1] [2] > >> I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since one of my > column headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the > \hlines extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as the > booktabs package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the table. > I ended up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. > > > >> Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? The > formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs > package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of \hlines. > In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of the > booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" tabular table. > > > >> Any thoughts on this?Best regards,John-----[1] > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables > >> [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/booktabs/ > > > > -- > > Thomas S. Dye > > http://www.tsdye.com > > > > -- > Thomas S. 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On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Thomas S. Dye <= span dir=3D"ltr"><tsd@tsdye.com>= wrote:
Hi John,

The Library of Babel comes with your Org-mode distribution.

You'll find it at /contrib/babel/library-of-babel.org


I guess you learn something new every = day!
=C2=A0
In the org file, look for
* Tables
** LaTeX Table Export

There should be functions booktabs and booktabs-notes.

One way to use booktabs is described here:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-exp= ort.html#sec-13-2


I'll check these out. Looked at th= e worg howto. Not a huge fan of the method, especially with hiding my table= s, but I'll give it a shot. I figure there's got to be a simpler wa= y; just change the first \hline -> \toprule and the bottom one to \botto= mrule; \midrules in between.

Thanks again,
John
=C2=A0
hth,
Tom

John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com= > writes:

> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Agreed, booktabs makes good looking tables.
>>
>> Check out your Library of Babel. =C2=A0There should =C2=A0be a cou= ple of functions
>> there that will help you go from Org mode to booktabs.
>>
>>
> Haven't done much with babel other than writing code blocks. Do yo= u mean
> this page?
> --- http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/libra= ry-of-babel.html
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. Feeling a bit lost, but am happy to look ar= ound
> for something that seems similar. I have no elisp-fu, so it'll nee= d to be
> pretty darn similar :)
>
>
> John
>
>
>> hth,
>> Tom
>>
>> John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmai= l.com> writes:
>>
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> >
>> > I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on table= s the other
>> > day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the "= ;Professional
>> > tables" section. [1] [2]
>> >
>> > I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since = one of my column
>> > headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places t= he \hlines
>> > extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., a= s the
>> booktabs
>> > package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the t= able. I
>> ended
>> > up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block.
>> >
>> > Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be use= d? The
>> > formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the= booktabs
>> > package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule inste= ad of
>> \hlines.
>> > In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines inst= ead of the
>> > booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" = tabular table.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on this?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > John
>> >
>> > -----
>> > [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Table= s#Professional_tables
>> > [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/= latex/contrib/booktabs/
>> > Greetings,I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistanc= e on tables
>> the other day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the<= br> >> "Professional tables" section. [1] [2]
>> > I really, really liked it&#39;s formatting, especially si= nce one of my
>> column headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places= the
>> \hlines extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs.= , as the
>> booktabs package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for t= he table.
>> I ended up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. >> > Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be use= d? The
>> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the book= tabs
>> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of= \hlines.
>> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead o= f the
>> booktab specific lines, you&#39;ll get a "regular" t= abular table.
>> > Any thoughts on this?Best regards,John-----[1]
>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Profess= ional_tables
>> > [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/= latex/contrib/booktabs/
>>
>> --
>> Thomas S. Dye
>> http://www.tsdy= e.com
>>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S. Dye <span dir=3D"lt= r"><mailto:tsd@tsdye.com>= ;</span> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Agreed, booktabs makes good looking tables.
>
> Check out your Library of Babel. =C2=A0There should =C2=A0be a couple = of functions
> there that will help you go from Org mode to booktabs.
> Haven&#39;t done much with babel other than writing code blocks. D= o you mean this page?---=C2=A0http://orgmode.org/worg/or= g-contrib/babel/library-of-babel.html
> Thanks for the suggestion. Feeling a bit lost, but am happy to look ar= ound for something that seems similar. I have no elisp-fu, so it&#39;ll= need to be pretty darn similar :)
> John=C2=A0
> hth,
> Tom
>
> John Hendy <mailto:jw.hendy@g= mail.com> writes:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>> I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on tables the= other
>> day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the "Prof= essional
>> tables" section. [1] [2]
>>
>> I really, really liked it&#39;s formatting, especially since o= ne of my column
>> headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the \h= lines
>> extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as the= booktabs
>> package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the table.= I ended
>> up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block.
>>
>> Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? Th= e
>> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the book= tabs
>> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of= \hlines.
>> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead o= f the
>> booktab specific lines, you&#39;ll get a "regular" t= abular table.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John
>>
>> -----
>> [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Pro= fessional_tables
>> [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex= /contrib/booktabs/
>> Greetings,I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on = tables the other day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the &q= uot;Professional tables" section. [1] [2]
>> I really, really liked it&#39;s formatting, especially since o= ne of my column headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places= the \hlines extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as= the booktabs package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the t= able. I ended up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block.
>
>> Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? Th= e formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs pa= ckage and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of \hlines. I= n fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of the book= tab specific lines, you&#39;ll get a "regular" tabular table.=
>
>> Any thoughts on this?Best regards,John-----[1]=C2=A0http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables
>> [2]=C2=A0http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/= latex/contrib/booktabs/
> <span class=3D"HOEnZb">
> --
> Thomas S. Dye
> http://www.tsdye.co= m
> </span>

--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com=

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