From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Way to replace normal tabular env with booktabs? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:35:48 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d021a82cd6b04b66a9e8c Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43632) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RljAc-0003dN-BU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:36:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RljAV-0006SJ-Nl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:35:58 -0500 Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:51940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RljAV-0006SC-8X for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:35:51 -0500 Received: by bkuw5 with SMTP id w5so2815655bku.0 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 07:35:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Niels Giesen Cc: emacs-orgmode --0015175d021a82cd6b04b66a9e8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Niels Giesen wrote: > There is a patch from me waiting to be incorporated into org mode that > lets one use booktabs as export for normal org tables. > > You can find it @ http://patchwork.newartisans.com/patch/1016/ > > Brilliant! This is fantastic. I love that you can leave it alone (default) or choose to change the variables. Thanks so much for chiming in. John > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM, John Hendy wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> The Library of Babel comes with your Org-mode distribution. >>> >>> You'll find it at /contrib/babel/library-of-babel.org >>> >>> >> I guess you learn something new every day! >> >> >>> In the org file, look for >>> * Tables >>> ** LaTeX Table Export >>> >>> There should be functions booktabs and booktabs-notes. >>> >>> One way to use booktabs is described here: >>> >>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html#sec-13-2 >>> >>> >> I'll check these out. Looked at the worg howto. Not a huge fan of the >> method, especially with hiding my tables, but I'll give it a shot. I figure >> there's got to be a simpler way; just change the first \hline -> \toprule >> and the bottom one to \bottomrule; \midrules in between. >> >> Thanks again, >> John >> >> >>> hth, >>> Tom >>> >>> John Hendy writes: >>> >>> > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi John, >>> >> >>> >> Agreed, booktabs makes good looking tables. >>> >> >>> >> Check out your Library of Babel. There should be a couple of >>> functions >>> >> there that will help you go from Org mode to booktabs. >>> >> >>> >> >>> > Haven't done much with babel other than writing code blocks. Do you >>> mean >>> > this page? >>> > --- http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/library-of-babel.html >>> > >>> > Thanks for the suggestion. Feeling a bit lost, but am happy to look >>> around >>> > for something that seems similar. I have no elisp-fu, so it'll need to >>> be >>> > pretty darn similar :) >>> > >>> > >>> > John >>> > >>> > >>> >> hth, >>> >> Tom >>> >> >>> >> John Hendy writes: >>> >> >>> >> > Greetings, >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on tables the >>> other >>> >> > day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the >>> "Professional >>> >> > tables" section. [1] [2] >>> >> > >>> >> > I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since one of my >>> column >>> >> > headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the >>> \hlines >>> >> > extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as the >>> >> booktabs >>> >> > package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the table. I >>> >> ended >>> >> > up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. >>> >> > >>> >> > Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? The >>> >> > formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the >>> booktabs >>> >> > package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of >>> >> \hlines. >>> >> > In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of >>> the >>> >> > booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" tabular table. >>> >> > >>> >> > Any thoughts on this? >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Best regards, >>> >> > John >>> >> > >>> >> > ----- >>> >> > [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables >>> >> > [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/booktabs/ >>> >> > Greetings,I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on >>> tables >>> >> the other day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the >>> >> "Professional tables" section. [1] [2] >>> >> > I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since one of >>> my >>> >> column headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the >>> >> \hlines extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., >>> as the >>> >> booktabs package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the >>> table. >>> >> I ended up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. >>> >> > Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? The >>> >> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs >>> >> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of >>> \hlines. >>> >> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of >>> the >>> >> booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" tabular table. >>> >> > Any thoughts on this?Best regards,John-----[1] >>> >> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables >>> >> > [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/booktabs/ >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Thomas S. Dye >>> >> http://www.tsdye.com >>> >> >>> > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S. Dye >> tsd@tsdye.com> wrote: >>> > Hi John, >>> > >>> > Agreed, booktabs makes good looking tables. >>> > >>> > Check out your Library of Babel. There should be a couple of >>> functions >>> > there that will help you go from Org mode to booktabs. >>> > Haven't done much with babel other than writing code blocks. Do >>> you mean this page?--- >>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/library-of-babel.html >>> > Thanks for the suggestion. Feeling a bit lost, but am happy to look >>> around for something that seems similar. I have no elisp-fu, so it'll >>> need to be pretty darn similar :) >>> > John >>> > hth, >>> > Tom >>> > >>> > John Hendy writes: >>> > >>> >> Greetings, >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on tables the >>> other >>> >> day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the "Professional >>> >> tables" section. [1] [2] >>> >> >>> >> I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since one of >>> my column >>> >> headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the >>> \hlines >>> >> extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as the >>> booktabs >>> >> package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the table. I >>> ended >>> >> up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. >>> >> >>> >> Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? The >>> >> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs >>> >> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of >>> \hlines. >>> >> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of >>> the >>> >> booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" tabular table. >>> >> >>> >> Any thoughts on this? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Best regards, >>> >> John >>> >> >>> >> ----- >>> >> [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables >>> >> [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/booktabs/ >>> >> Greetings,I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on >>> tables the other day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the >>> "Professional tables" section. [1] [2] >>> >> I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since one of >>> my column headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the >>> \hlines extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as the >>> booktabs package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the table. >>> I ended up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. >>> > >>> >> Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? The >>> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs >>> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of \hlines. >>> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of the >>> booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" tabular table. >>> > >>> >> Any thoughts on this?Best regards,John-----[1] >>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables >>> >> [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/booktabs/ >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Thomas S. Dye >>> > http://www.tsdye.com >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Thomas S. Dye >>> http://www.tsdye.com >>> >> >> > > > -- > http://pft.github.com > --0015175d021a82cd6b04b66a9e8c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Niels Giesen <niels.giesen@= gmail.com> wrote:
There is a patch from me waiting to be incorporated into org mode that lets= one use booktabs as export for normal org tables.

You c= an find it=C2=A0@=C2=A0http://patchwork.newartisans.com/patch/1016/


Brilliant! This is fantasti= c. I love that you can leave it alone (default) or choose to change the var= iables.=C2=A0

Thanks so much for chiming in.


John


=


On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM, John Hendy = <jw.hendy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Thomas S. = Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
Hi John,

The Library of Babel comes with your Org-mode distribution.

You'll find it at /contrib/babel/library-of-babel.org


I guess you learn something new = every day!
=C2=A0
In the org file, look for
* Tables
** LaTeX Table Export

There should be functions booktabs and booktabs-notes.

One way to use booktabs is described here:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-exp= ort.html#sec-13-2


I'll check these out. Looked= at the worg howto. Not a huge fan of the method, especially with hiding my= tables, but I'll give it a shot. I figure there's got to be a simp= ler way; just change the first \hline -> \toprule and the bottom one to = \bottomrule; \midrules in between.

Thanks again,
John
=C2=A0=
hth,
Tom

John Hendy <jw.h= endy@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Agreed, booktabs makes good looking tables.
>>
>> Check out your Library of Babel. =C2=A0There should =C2=A0be a cou= ple of functions
>> there that will help you go from Org mode to booktabs.
>>
>>
> Haven't done much with babel other than writing code blocks. Do yo= u mean
> this page?
> --- http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/libra= ry-of-babel.html
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. Feeling a bit lost, but am happy to look ar= ound
> for something that seems similar. I have no elisp-fu, so it'll nee= d to be
> pretty darn similar :)
>
>
> John
>
>
>> hth,
>> Tom
>>
>> John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> >
>> > I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on table= s the other
>> > day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the "= ;Professional
>> > tables" section. [1] [2]
>> >
>> > I really, really liked it's formatting, especially since = one of my column
>> > headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places t= he \hlines
>> > extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., a= s the
>> booktabs
>> > package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the t= able. I
>> ended
>> > up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block.
>> >
>> > Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be use= d? The
>> > formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the= booktabs
>> > package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule inste= ad of
>> \hlines.
>> > In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines inst= ead of the
>> > booktab specific lines, you'll get a "regular" = tabular table.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on this?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > John
>> >
>> > -----
>> > [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Table= s#Professional_tables
>> > [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/= latex/contrib/booktabs/
>> > Greetings,I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistanc= e on tables
>> the other day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the<= br> >> "Professional tables" section. [1] [2]
>> > I really, really liked it&#39;s formatting, especially si= nce one of my
>> column headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places= the
>> \hlines extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs.= , as the
>> booktabs package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for t= he table.
>> I ended up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block. >> > Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be use= d? The
>> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the book= tabs
>> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of= \hlines.
>> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead o= f the
>> booktab specific lines, you&#39;ll get a "regular" t= abular table.
>> > Any thoughts on this?Best regards,John-----[1]
>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Profess= ional_tables
>> > [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/= latex/contrib/booktabs/
>>
>> --
>> Thomas S. Dye
>> http://www.tsdy= e.com
>>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Thomas S. Dye <span dir=3D"lt= r"><mailto:ts= d@tsdye.com></span> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> Agreed, booktabs makes good looking tables.
>
> Check out your Library of Babel. =C2=A0There should =C2=A0be a couple = of functions
> there that will help you go from Org mode to booktabs.
> Haven&#39;t done much with babel other than writing code blocks. D= o you mean this page?---=C2=A0http://orgmode.org/worg/or= g-contrib/babel/library-of-babel.html
> Thanks for the suggestion. Feeling a bit lost, but am happy to look ar= ound for something that seems similar. I have no elisp-fu, so it&#39;ll= need to be pretty darn similar :)
> John=C2=A0
> hth,
> Tom
>
> John Hendy <mailto:jw.hendy@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>> I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on tables the= other
>> day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the "Prof= essional
>> tables" section. [1] [2]
>>
>> I really, really liked it&#39;s formatting, especially since o= ne of my column
>> headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places the \h= lines
>> extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as the= booktabs
>> package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the table.= I ended
>> up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block.
>>
>> Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? Th= e
>> formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the book= tabs
>> package and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of= \hlines.
>> In fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead o= f the
>> booktab specific lines, you&#39;ll get a "regular" t= abular table.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John
>>
>> -----
>> [1] http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Pro= fessional_tables
>> [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex= /contrib/booktabs/
>> Greetings,I was using wikibooks for some formatting assistance on = tables the other day and ran into mention of the booktabs package in the &q= uot;Professional tables" section. [1] [2]
>> I really, really liked it&#39;s formatting, especially since o= ne of my column headers was a fraction. The standard tabular package places= the \hlines extremely close to the top and bottom of my header row vs., as= the booktabs package says, having extremely nice looking spacing for the t= able. I ended up doing the table manually inside #+begin_latex block.
>
>> Would there be any way to specify that booktabs should be used? Th= e formatting is literally identical except for 1) including the booktabs pa= ckage and 2) using \toprule, \midrule and \bottomrule instead of \hlines. I= n fact, even with booktabs included, if you use \hlines instead of the book= tab specific lines, you&#39;ll get a "regular" tabular table.=
>
>> Any thoughts on this?Best regards,John-----[1]=C2=A0http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Tables#Professional_tables
>> [2]=C2=A0http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/= latex/contrib/booktabs/
> <span class=3D"HOEnZb">
> --
> Thomas S. Dye
> http://www.tsdye.co= m
> </span>

--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com=




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