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From: Archenoth <archenoth@gmail.com>
To: Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org>
Cc: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>, Org-mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Subject: Re: Survey: changing a few default settings for Org 9.4
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 14:28:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+GZiYpk3oMaeoEVS3pjHRzEqR765Gmn=XqXogzPDeGPWJ6tbQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGY83Ed85_q8gYeiX2m6P63dNKZGp1g8H6dBQGoTDZiLub2-yg@mail.gmail.com>

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Yes! Thank you Bastien!

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:26 AM Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:

> > Also, my question is still open: is there any strong reason to provide,
> > out of the box, two template mechanisms in Org? This is genuine
> > question.
>
> No, there is no good reason for two template mechanism, and if we can
> rely on org-insert-structure-template only, while still being able to
> complete <* at the beginning of the line, that'd be perfect to me.
>

I definitely agree with this.

I voted (slightly late) for having org-tempo in org-modules--not out of any
love of org-tempo itself, but more because it feels to me like an extremely
natural way to create blocks.
The tab key is extremely easy to hit, and having a fully formed block
created by typing a short string of characters makes the tab-completion
lizard-part of my brain happy in a way that key chord combos simply don't.

I think this is partly because I personally can't do key chords at the same
rate I can type a string of characters--even if they require technically
the same number of keystrokes.
Like, I can type a 10 character command *significantly* faster than I can
hit a number of different combinations of keys that also happen to be 10
keypresses.

I just personally find it really nice!

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:37 PM Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org> wrote:

> Thanks Bastien for all your work!
>
> --Diego
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 4:50 PM Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> here are the results of the survey, with *47* voters:
>>
>> - 26+2 : org-loop-over-headlines-in-active-region => t
>> - 25+2 : org-agenda-loop-over-headlines-in-active-region => t
>> - 28+3 : org-fontify-done-headline => t
>> - 17+4 : org-hide-emphasis-markers => t
>> - 10+6 : org-hide-macro-markers => t
>> - 15+5 : org-refile-use-cache => t
>> - 23+6 : org-special-ctrl-k => t
>> - 20+6 : org-allow-promoting-top-level-subtree => t
>> - 22+5 : Add org-tempo to org-modules
>>
>> I've changed the values of these options in master:
>>
>> - 35+2 : org-src-tab-acts-natively => t
>> - 28+3 : org-fontify-done-headline => t
>> - 26+2 : org-loop-over-headlines-in-active-region => t
>> - 25+2 : org-agenda-loop-over-headlines-in-active-region => t
>>
>> I've *not* changed the values of these options:
>>
>> - 23+6 : org-special-ctrl-k => t
>> - 22+5 : Add org-tempo to org-modules
>> - 20+6 : org-allow-promoting-top-level-subtree => t
>> - 17+4 : org-hide-emphasis-markers => t
>> - 10+6 : org-hide-macro-markers => t
>> - 15+5 : org-refile-use-cache => t
>>
>> The reason for not changing the default of org-special-ctrl-k is that
>> 23 < 47/2.  Also, I think it was a mistake to propose this: even the
>> org-special- prefix should have warned me.  The org-special-* options
>> should be nil by default, and while org-special-ctrl-k may be useful,
>> it is as useful as org-special-ctrl-a/e, which sticks to nil too.
>>
>> The reason for not adding org-tempo to org-modules is, on top of the
>> poll being 22 < 47/2, that the current discussion on the list leaves
>> room for improvements that may lead to move org-tempo from Org's core
>> anyway.
>>
>> The reason for not changing the four other options is that they did
>> not get enough votes.
>>
>> I've push the change for the three options in current master.
>>
>> Thanks again for participating to the poll and to the discussions!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> --
>>  Bastien
>>
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-21 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-19  7:39 Survey: changing a few default settings for Org 9.4 Bastien
2020-02-19  8:57 ` Samuel Wales
2020-02-19  9:01   ` Bastien
2020-02-19 20:02   ` Samuel Wales
2020-02-19 20:15     ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-02-19 21:35       ` Bastien
2020-02-19 22:06         ` Samuel Wales
2020-02-19 11:03 ` Marco Wahl
2020-02-19 11:41   ` Bastien
2020-02-19 13:21     ` Marco Wahl
2020-02-19 13:39       ` Bastien
2020-02-19 17:57         ` Marco Wahl
2020-02-19 20:44           ` Bastien
2020-02-20  4:11       ` Adam Porter
2020-02-19 11:30 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-19 11:57   ` Bastien
2020-02-19 14:07     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-19 17:24       ` Bastien
2020-02-19 23:23         ` Vladimir Lomov
2020-02-19 23:53           ` Bastien
2020-02-20  0:20             ` Samuel Wales
2020-02-19 12:58   ` Tim Cross
2020-02-19 13:22     ` Bastien
2020-02-19 15:06       ` Tim Cross
2020-02-19 13:03   ` AW
2020-02-19 15:41 ` Matthew Lundin
2020-02-19 16:16   ` Joost Kremers
2020-02-19 17:13     ` Bastien
2020-02-19 16:50   ` Detlef Steuer
2020-02-19 17:14     ` Bastien
2020-02-20  4:07 ` Adam Porter
2020-02-20  7:10   ` Bastien
2020-02-20 14:10     ` Kaushal Modi
2020-02-21 15:49 ` Bastien
2020-02-21 19:36   ` Diego Zamboni
2020-02-21 21:28     ` Archenoth [this message]
2020-02-22  9:38       ` Bastien
2020-02-22 12:45         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-02-22 13:31           ` Bastien
2020-02-22 18:57           ` Archenoth
2020-03-18  2:20 ` Mark E. Shoulson
2020-03-18  8:58   ` Norman Tovey-Walsh
2020-03-18 20:47     ` Hiding emphasis markers Mark E. Shoulson
2020-05-22 16:47       ` Bastien

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