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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email , Bruce D'Arcus , John Kitchin Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1631811204; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=yOj13mRymS5jycdSKFkEMHnhWISu6Q2rC4NUlB2g6pI=; b=uGnJoC6e/PWuwWG9cfLcdVWXCu0Qr4m2LScfuuUTTljf3vdKTGQr1aCGZhmpphWQv3gEEy ++ALgEP1ELl+Brbuff8RgO3X2tVECptniw1wAM5GmDdgtKwarIl9Wca31h1dpXhrGoLMvD 8MrTpicAze7DZ8R8vhQdYbHG6voSnMWz6aJv+V/hsyqzk0io1Zfbzff87QJx/fO1XpAwWg VrTz9QS0GuI4x/hRZYnWss5IaHJ0b7oLKuJ6PNErocuEVTTSh9o8Zt/2hmNPxuuyHawxkf cfWhF2cCieFO2B1KIjgZaELO3SR5laC0r/zJEWS2/6toMmM4xfO90ev9KaSi5g== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1631811204; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=f6pGSZ9NmoTu2n+w3lT6lISZ9nVBFRl53NeTY5DXyYnfHRmladPzvDDR1pqfWE1KRty/Oo 7fRZDQ61GI0wgE/BtwxMDaa4+7dP2WatzLI0S1BgzCxb9AXVk73Gr3xq5GXvKBjzxoTC0o hrtrFdgbfZMRtKZE7GfQJb7LXP1U5mbFmIKfmQKWcnRR0QEMZdGZ+rjAVf7eIJxK8CXpzF wFwMhmT+q9G59Jj1rPMHP26qJEtioGTML4/C8m5NdWsTRB6ySfWGkAGcz5F2/AZuJJSGc1 cdsu2DS8BO08wbAUbovTtYJpCKW5p2ih0XTgn0rHyauPQlxfpaYU2xt3DIWjnQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=ObUI+vCO; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 1.20 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=ObUI+vCO; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9268D1DCF5 X-Spam-Score: 1.20 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: Dnm3EJqfRXiT > I understand the problem, but the solution should not be: "let's pretend > export does not exist". >From my perspective any org object that is not in a section that allows org objects could in principle be parsed as such, but it would not be in the core of the grammar, and it also would have to parse to something that did not trigger side effects related to export. Allowing org objects to appear at arbitrary places in the grammar is definitely not a good idea because in many senses they cannot actually be those objects. Maybe the syntax could be the same, but they would have to be "shadow objects" or something like that? Best, Tom