From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dov Grobgeld Subject: Re: Right-to-left text in org mode Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:17:46 +0300 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39791) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsWgW-0000DU-Fd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:17:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsWgV-0001PJ-3E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:17:48 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]:55998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UsWgU-0001P7-QY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:17:47 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id z11so1359597wgg.5 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:17:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Manuel GJT Cc: emacs-orgmode You are right, I forgot about that. I also have (setq bidi-paragraph-direction nil) in my org-mode-hook. Regadrs, Dov On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Manuel GJT wrote: > It turns out that org mode does force directionality in its buffers. I found > in org.el the line > > 5308 (setq bidi-paragraph-direction 'left-to-right) > > However, bidi-paragraph-direction is always buffer local when set. That > explains why switching to other mode does not help. > > The solution is to set bidi-paragraph-direction to nil in org buffers with > mixed LTR and RTL texts. This, however, might change the alignment of some > headings to right-aligned. But the bidi markers now work just fine, so it's > just a matter of placing them wisely. > > I appreciate the time you took for this little discussion. It helped me get > a clearer picture of the inner workings of bidi and emacs. > > > Kind regards, > > Manuel GJT > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Dov Grobgeld > wrote: >> >> A work around seems to be to provide an empty line between the LTR and >> the RTL paragraph. I.e. instead of >> >> * this is ltr >> * THIS IS RTL >> >> do: >> >> * this is ltr >> >> * THIS IS RTL >> >> But you are correct that the wrapping of LTR paragraphs with RTL text >> is buggy. This bug seems to have nothing to do with org mode, but >> happens e.g. in text mode and fundamental mode as well. You should >> raise this issue on the emacs-list or file a bug with emacs. >> >> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Manuel GJT wrote: >> > Specifically what additional information should I provide? This happens >> > to >> > me even without my .emacs loaded. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with >> > m17n-(db/contrib), libm17n-(0/dev) installed. >> > >> > It seems that in org mode is forcing LTR in mixed-directionality texts >> > since, for example, a heading with RTL text will not change the stars to >> > be >> > right-aligned, and the cursor's behavior in org mode is different than >> > in a >> > clean buffer. >> > >> > Perhaps you could show me how to ignore any previous paragraph settings >> > other than with R-T-L MARK? >> > >> > >> > Kind regards, >> > >> > Manuel GJT >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Dov Grobgeld >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I was able to reproduce this behavior only with by forcing the >> >> paragraph direction to LTR or equivilantly by having a first strong >> >> LTR character in the beginning of the paragraph. Please provide more >> >> information about your environment, and someone might be able to help >> >> you. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Dov >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Manuel GJT wrote: >> >> > Hello everyone, >> >> > >> >> > I need to work in an org buffer with both left-to-right and >> >> > right-to-left >> >> > text. Although the character directionality and composition works >> >> > fine, >> >> > when >> >> > writing paragraphs with visual-line-mode on the lines get inverted, >> >> > i.e., >> >> > the line >> >> > >> >> > ZYX CBA >> >> > >> >> > appears as >> >> > >> >> > ZYX >> >> > CBA >> >> > >> >> > instead of >> >> > >> >> > CBA >> >> > ZYX >> >> > >> >> > The section "22.20 Bidirectional Editing" of the Emacs manual >> >> > suggests >> >> > forcing the directionality of the paragraph with RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK, >> >> > but >> >> > this does not seem to work: even with such a character beginning the >> >> > line, >> >> > (current-bidi-paragraph-direction) returns "left-to-right". >> >> > >> >> > The RTL MARK seems to work just fine in tables. >> >> > >> >> > When written in a clean text-mode buffer the same text appears with >> >> > proper >> >> > directionality. However switching from org-mode to text-mode does not >> >> > correct directionality in said paragraphs. The issue persists even >> >> > when >> >> > visiting the file with emacs -Q. >> >> > >> >> > org-version 8.0.3, same issue with v. 7.9.4 >> >> > >> >> > Your help is much appreciated. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Manuel GJT >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Manuel GJT > > > > > -- > Manuel GJT