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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Leifer <msleifer@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH] Compiling multiple times the LaTeX output
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:26:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C4B1D704-10E8-488F-B09E-BB60114E6CAF@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinivZY9sOAxvzxt6wci3LQcmin-AD+WDtMQjv9N@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Matthew,

you are completely right, we are re-inventing wheels here.

I have just pushed a fix which will use texi2dvi when available.
The echo area will now also give an indication of the kinds
of errors that happened during the final pdflatex run.

This is a big improvement, thanks to Sebastian for kicking
off this discussion, and to all who contributed.

Please test the new processing and let me know if there
are problems.

- Carsten

On Oct 5, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Matthew Leifer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't know if you are aware, but there is a utility called  
> texi2dvi that figures out how many times LaTeX, bibtex, etc. need to  
> be run and automatically runs them the correct number of times for  
> you.  It also has an option -p that uses pdflatex and generates pdf  
> instead of dvi.  In my opinion, it would be better to make use of  
> this rather than writing new code to do this, as they have thought  
> about all the edge cases in far more detail than is possible here.   
> It is possible that some LaTeX installations do not come with  
> texi2dvi, but it does come with the full TeXLive installation so  
> plenty of people are likely to have it installed.  If you want to  
> avoid this breaking on systems that do not have texi2dvi installed  
> then you could just check for it, use it if it is available and, if  
> not, give the user a warning message that they may get better  
> results if they install texi2dvi whilst using the existing code.
>
> Best,
>
> Matt Leifer
>
> 2010/10/5 Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com>
> Hi Carsten,
>
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
> > Thanks for the patch! I would certainly have a better way to  
> process these
> > files.
>
> Could you make your latest sentence more explicit?
>
>
> > 1. Can we run bibtex only if we have an indication that it might  
> be needed?
> >    Maybe by looking at the output of the first LaTeX run? Hmm,  
> maybe this
> >    would not work if only the bibtex database file was changed.
>
> I guess things in that direction are entirely possible. I don't use  
> bibtex
> yet, but will have a look at a better integration.
>
>
> > 2. The contrill structures you are using, are they standard shell  
> or is bash
> >    needed for this?
>
> Good question!  Yes, I implicitly wrote in bash. That won't work for  
> sure in
> Windows...
>
> But, then, how do we do for writing such shells in Emacs?  Go to  
> Emacs's
> builtin shell?  I have no experience with it, but I can have a look,  
> except:
> how would we be sure that the preferred shell of the user is that one?
>
>
> > 3. Maybe we can extract a useful error message if the last  
> PDFLaTeX run
> >    still contains problems? Maybe even load the log file in this  
> case?
>
> For sure, such behaviors would be a great, in case of failures.
>
> Best regards,
>  Seb
>
> >> Here is my (much) better proposition:
> >>
> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> >> diff --git a/lisp/org-latex.el b/lisp/org-latex.el
> >> index 9a62457..0a2c5fe 100644
> >> --- a/lisp/org-latex.el
> >> +++ b/lisp/org-latex.el
> >> @@ -455,25 +455,35 @@ allowed.  The default we use here  
> encompasses both."
> >>   :group 'org-export-latex
> >>   :group 'org-export)
> >>
> >> +(defcustom org-latex-pdf-max-runs 3
> >> +  "Maximum number of times PDFLaTeX is run after BibTeX."
> >> +  :group 'org-export-pdf
> >> +  :type 'int)
> >> +
> >> (defcustom org-latex-to-pdf-process
> >> -  '("pdflatex -interaction nonstopmode -output-directory %o %f"
> >> -    "pdflatex -interaction nonstopmode -output-directory %o %f")
> >> +  `("pdflatex -interaction nonstopmode -output-directory %o %f"
> >> +    "bibtex %b"
> >> +    ,(concat "let COUNTER=0; while (grep -e \"Rerun .* cross-
> >> references\" %b.log > /dev/null); do if [ $COUNTER -eq "
> >> +             (int-to-string org-latex-pdf-max-runs)
> >> +             " ]; then break; fi; pdflatex -interaction  
> nonstopmode
> >> -output-directory %o %f; let COUNTER=COUNTER+1; done"))
> >>   "Commands to process a LaTeX file to a PDF file.
> >> This is a list of strings, each of them will be given to the shell
> >> as a command.  %f in the command will be replaced by the full  
> file name, %b
> >> by the file base name (i.e. without extension) and %o by the base  
> directory
> >> of the file.
> >> The reason why this is a list is that it usually takes several  
> runs of
> >> -pdflatex, maybe mixed with a call to bibtex.  Org does not have  
> a clever
> >> -mechanism to detect which of these commands have to be run to  
> get to a
> >> stable
> >> -result, and it also does not do any error checking.
> >> +pdflatex, mixed with a call to bibtex.  Org does now have a clever
> >> mechanism
> >> +to detect how many times the document has to be compiled to get  
> to a stable
> >> +result for the cross-references.  Moreover, the number of  
> compilations
> >> after
> >> +bibtex is limited to 3 by default (see `org-latex-pdf-max-runs'  
> for more).
> >> +Though, it does not do any error checking.
> >>
> >> Alternatively, this may be a Lisp function that does the  
> processing, so you
> >> could use this to apply the machinery of AUCTeX or the Emacs  
> LaTeX mode.
> >> This function should accept the file name as its single argument."
> >>   :group 'org-export-pdf
> >>   :type '(choice (repeat :tag "Shell command sequence"
> >> -              (string :tag "Shell command"))
> >> +                     (string :tag "Shell command"))
> >>               (function)))
> >>
> >> (defcustom org-export-pdf-logfiles
> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> >>
> >> Enhancements:
> >>
> >> - variable to limit the number of PDFLaTeX runs (3, by default)
> >>
> >>  Though, the way it is evaluated, you need to set it before calling
> >> org-latex
> >>  (before defining org-latex-to-pdf-process). Not a problem, IMHO.  
> Maybe
> >> there
> >>  are better ways, though?
> >>
> >> - real standard sequence to compile the doc:
> >>
> >>  + one call to PDFLaTeX
> >>  + one call to BibTeX
> >>  + as many calls as needed to PDFLaTeX (max 3)
>
> --
> Sébastien Vauban
>
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-05 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-29 14:25 Compiling multiple times the LaTeX output Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-29 15:17 ` Noorul Islam K M
2010-09-30 13:27   ` [PATCH] " Sébastien Vauban
2010-09-30 15:39     ` Nick Dokos
2010-09-30 16:55       ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-10-01 15:32         ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-10-01 21:17           ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-10-04  7:41             ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-04 10:36               ` Scot Becker
2010-10-05 12:46               ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-10-05 14:17                 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-05 14:30                 ` Matthew Leifer
2010-10-05 15:02                   ` Indraneel Majumdar
2010-10-05 16:26                   ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-10-05 18:55                     ` Achim Gratz
2010-10-05 21:12                       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-06  8:21                     ` Sébastien Vauban
2010-10-05 18:24                   ` Achim Gratz
2010-10-01 16:12         ` Nick Dokos
2010-10-06  9:36           ` Bruno Tavernier
2010-10-06 20:39             ` Matthew Leifer
2010-10-07  2:09               ` Bruno Tavernier
2010-10-13  7:49               ` Olivier Schwander
2010-10-13 12:34                 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-06 21:54             ` Scot Becker

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