From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 06:36:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C41A76CF-2B40-445D-BD95-92FA56E4A55B@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ws8skj8l.fsf@kassiopeya.MSHEIMNETZ>
On May 7, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Jan Buchal <buchal@brailcom.org> writes:
>> CD> On May 7, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Jan Buchal wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> "CD" == Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>> CD> On May 7, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Jan Buchal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello again,
>>>>>
>>>>> the problem is little bit complicate :-) I need <th> not in first
>>>>> row only but by every column which contain the name of row. In
>>>>> the attachment you can find the example
>>>
>>> CD> That is currently not possible.
>>> And is it possible fix it? From the point of view of accessibility
>>> is a
>>> bug.
>>
>> CD> I would not call it a bug, it is a limitation. Org is not a
>> full
>> CD> HTML table editor, there are many things it cannot do,
>> including
>> CD> column and row spanning, multiline fields, you name it.
>> Unfortunately it is a bug. See please WCAG documentation.
>
>
> It's not. It's just something not implemented. And, as I see it, it
> would be complicated to implement.
>
>
> What you want seems to be this:
>
> 1. It's recommended to put the column headers into the <thead>
> element
> (Org-mode does this). That way column headers are re-printed on
> every
> page, if a table exceeds the size of one printed page.
>
> 2. It's recommended to use <th> elements in tables like this:
>
> | Country | Number of citizens |
> |---------+--------------------|
> | Germany | 84 Mio. |
> | France | XXX Mio. |
>
> In this case it could make sense to put the country names in <th>
> tags (see 4.). I think this is, what you wanted.
>
>
> 3. Use the caption element to describe the purpose of a
> table. Org-mode does this.
>
>
> 4. The `scope' attribut describes, wich table cells are concerned by
> the <th> element.
>
> Again, our country example. This table should be handled corretly
> by a screen reader:
>
> <table>
> <caption>Citizens per country</caption>
> <thead>
> <tr>
> <th scope="col"> Country </th>
> <th scope="col"> Number of citizens </th>
> </tr>
> </thead>
> <tbody>
> <tr>
> <th scope="row"> Germany </th>
> <td> 84 Mio. </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <th scope="row"> France </th>
> <td> XXX Mio. </td>
> </tr>
> ...
>
>
> There are more possible values for `scope' (`colgroup' and `rowgroup')
> as well, as some additional possibilities to assign headers to cells
> (`header' and `id') in such a way, that multiple headers describe one
> cell.
>
> In our example, the headers `Germany' and `Number of citizens' would
> describe the cell `84 Mio.'.
>
>
>
> I don't see, how Org-mode could decide which headers describe wich
> cells.
>
> The most obvious thing to do would be, to
>
>
> a) mark cells as table-headers (this is the only needed new
> Org-syntax feature),
> b) if in the first table row, add a scope="col" to the <th> tag,
> c) if in the first column, add a scope="row" to the <th> tag.
OK, this is ho it works now....
Thanks
- Carsten
>
>
>
> Beacuse if we take all those possible assignments into account, we'll
> get something complicated to code, use and document...
> We would have to end with some kind of `formular' syntax, like the one
> used for the spreadsheet capabilities.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-08 4:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-06 14:13 An improvement for a reading of exported HTML tables Giovanni Ridolfi
2009-05-06 15:28 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-07 6:46 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-07 9:09 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-07 9:38 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-07 10:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-07 10:44 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-07 12:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-07 13:12 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-07 13:43 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-07 15:00 ` Nick Dokos
2009-05-07 16:21 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-07 13:31 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-07 15:47 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-05-08 4:36 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-05-09 8:52 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-11 5:25 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-08 8:37 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-08 9:03 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-05-08 10:39 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-08 14:50 ` Nick Dokos
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-07 7:52 Giovanni Ridolfi
2009-05-07 8:52 ` Jan Buchal
2009-05-06 13:11 Jan Buchal
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