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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: fullpage.sty replacement [WAS: Problem with LaTeX snippets preview]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:27:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C1468343-9701-4978-BF63-90A6B4E6FEF4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8072.1254243801@alphaville.usa.hp.com>


On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> However:
>>
>> - Fullpage is a trivial ad very small package that only
>>   changes margins.  Even if it changes at some point, there is no
>> reason
>>   for Org to follow this change.
>
> Agreed - it was more "the principle of the thing" rather than this
> particular change.
>
>>
>> - I'd like to have few dependencies if possible.
>>
>
> Agreed - but there are going to be dependencies anyway.
>
>> - People who use strike-through faces should know better :-)
>>   Well, I know there are exceptions where this does make sense.
>>
>
> Agreed with this too - but soul.sty is included unconditionally
> so you get the dependency even if you are on the side of the angels.
>
>> The bad thing about packages that are in some TeX distros, but not
>> in others, is that you have to start documenting these dependencies
>> on a system-by-system basis, and I'd rather not go there, if  
>> possible.
>>
>
> That's why I think we should document it at the level of latex  
> packages:
> we can then point people to CTAN as the last resort. A blurb like this
> perhaps:
>
> "Your distro may provide a package for this (e.g. on Debian/Ubuntu,
> soul.sty is in the package texlive-latex-extra), but that varies  
> greatly
> from distro to distro, so you are on your own. Alternatively, you can
> look for it on ctan.org: most LaTeX packages can be found there, but  
> the
> installation is more complicated; a description can be found at <here
> comes a link>, but you will have to resolve problems on your own."
>
>> If soul.sty is a non-guaranteed dependency, we should document it.
>> Where?
>
> Perhaps a new Dependencies section in the manual that gathers up
> dependencies of the various exporters, as well as the preview stuff  
> and
> anything else that fits. Maybe keep it online, so people can update  
> it,
> and have the manual point to it. Give me a week or so to work on the
> latex part and see whether it seems helpful.

OK, great.

>
>> Maybe I should make the use of soul.sty dependend on the use of
>> strike- through stuff in the file....
>
> The trade-off is of course added complexity, but if you are willing
> to suffer the pain, who am I to dissuade you? :-)

Another possibility would be to try to load soul.sty but capture the  
error and continue.  So processing would work OK of strikethrough is  
not used.

- Carsten


>
> Thanks,
> Nick

      reply	other threads:[~2009-09-30  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-26 11:36 fullpage.sty replacement [WAS: Problem with LaTeX snippets preview] Tim Burt
2009-09-28 20:10 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-09-28 23:46   ` Tim Burt
2009-09-29  6:48   ` Nick Dokos
2009-09-29  7:38     ` Carsten Dominik
2009-09-29 17:03       ` Nick Dokos
2009-09-30  8:27         ` Carsten Dominik [this message]

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