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From: John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Horn <jrhorn424@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Using orgmode to take "inline notes" for research
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:08:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=sh=cmOS8zg6KbXw4FarEpBymhFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikQiTEoK+1BRfdufGcTHq_u3SAq-Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> They only solve half of the problem.
>
> Unbreakable bidirectional links using ID markers would solve
> the teleport problem.  Both ends can be moved anyplace,
> including inside stretches of text.  They are a little like
> a generalization of footnotes.  They use org IDs.  You can
> specify various things for export and appearance in the org
> buffer and so on.  ID markers are a proposal in the list
> archives; they can be used for graph-theoretic applications.
> Bidirectional links are simply a pair of ID markers that are
> made to act as links also and that point to each other.

This sounds very cool. I can't gather from the mailing list thread
(which appears to be just you) whether this is implemented or just
suggested. Is it possible to actually use this or not?

>
> However, you still need to figure out how to put notes at
> the top.  I wonder if inline tasks can work for this.  Maybe
> you can put a tag on each to specify that it is a note, then
> somehow export notes first, then everything except notes.
> I'm note sure how to design that to fit into org nicely.
> Maybe there is some way to do this:
>
>  * Here is my whole document (by inclusion)
>    (some kind of syntax here to say insert all :note: headlines)
>
>    Here are the things the notes refer to.  You can
>    teleport to them.
>
>    (some kind of syntax here to say insert all other headlines)
>

This would be pretty neat.

>
> Babel has something similar, but I don't know if it can do
> it.  I have long wanted a way to include the body of a
> headline upon export (maybe it is possible now, dunno) and
> this is a generalization that lets you include all headlines
> with a certain tag or all headlines without it.
>
> We would want it to be useful for more purposes.  Perhaps
> Extensible (i.e. universal) Syntax would allow flexibility here.
> It would prevent having to invent new syntax, because the
> same syntax is used for other features according to the car.

Agreed -- it would be neat to have the syntax/tools available to use
it for whatever, and as a result of such a feature set, it could be
used for this.


Thanks for sharing,
John

>
>  * Here is my whole document (by inclusion)
>    $[include :headlines-from-elisp (org-tags-view nil ":note:")]
>
>    Here are the things the notes refer to.  You can
>    teleport to them.
>
>    $[include :not-headlines-from-elisp (org-tags-view nil ":note:")]
>
>
> Samuel
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-06 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-06  2:02 Using orgmode to take "inline notes" for research John Hendy
2011-04-06  3:21 ` Jeff Horn
2011-04-06 10:33   ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-06 16:33   ` John Hendy
2011-04-06 16:47     ` John Hendy
2011-04-06 17:27       ` Samuel Wales
2011-04-06 18:08         ` John Hendy [this message]
2011-04-06 18:16           ` Samuel Wales
2011-04-06 18:16             ` John Hendy
2011-04-06 19:11     ` Mark Elston
2011-04-07  4:19     ` Jeff Horn
2011-04-07  9:20       ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-07 15:26         ` John Hendy
2011-04-07 15:33           ` Jeff Horn
2011-04-07 15:48             ` John Hendy
2011-04-08 20:53               ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-12 16:30                 ` John Hendy
2011-04-12 16:39                   ` John Hendy
2011-04-12 17:57                     ` John Hendy
2011-04-25 19:51                       ` Sébastien Vauban
2011-04-26 13:07                         ` John Hendy
2011-04-12 18:20                   ` Eric S Fraga
2011-04-12 18:56                     ` John Hendy
2011-04-17 23:36                     ` Rasmus
2011-04-20 17:46                       ` Eric S Fraga
2011-04-16  7:24                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-04-07 12:39       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2011-04-06  3:32 ` Eric Schulte
2011-04-06  4:10   ` Erik Iverson
2011-04-06  5:02     ` Eric Schulte
2011-04-06 16:16       ` John Hendy
2011-04-07  5:33         ` Eric S Fraga
2011-04-07 16:10           ` John Hendy
2011-04-08 18:18             ` Eric S Fraga
2011-04-08 20:08               ` John Hendy
2011-04-06 16:11     ` John Hendy
2011-04-06 16:09   ` John Hendy
2011-04-06 16:42     ` Eric Schulte
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2011-04-06  3:52 Rustom Mody

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