From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com>
Cc: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>, Org-mode Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Added support for "habit tracking"
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:20:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <B6B7FB6B-FD59-4F31-9EA0-E2FF9F737242@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e5bcefd0910230824i820e70fsc4ff24b9978f069c@mail.gmail.com>
On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
> But isn't consistency in the long-run the fact that you have
> actually *completed* them?
Yes and no. I don't need to always complete them, and yet I could
still be consistent. It's optimal to be perfectly consistent, but
that's no what's expected.
Missing a deadline is something else entirely, as one imagines there
are consequences. Missing a habit is, well, just harder to pin down.
> In this case, IMO, a weekly review is a habit, even though it does
> not happen daily, it still has consistent period to be respected (1
> day, every seven days), and a deadline (the very same day). Or
> habits need to be daily?
I guess it all comes down to whether you just want the graph or not.
A weekly review is really something you need to do every week, so it's
just a repeating task. I have too have regular repeating tasks for
things like downloading bank statements, paying the rent, visiting the
dentist, etc. These are tasks which are _each important in
themselves_. A habit, on the other hand, is never important in
itself. It doesn't matter so much if I miss washing the dishes
today. It's the _habit overall which is important_. As long as I
wash them more often than not, I'm doing better than if I'd never used
Org at all.
The only difference between regular repeating tasks and habits is this:
1. Habits appear at the bottom of the agenda (by default)
2. Habits can be removed by hitting K
3. Habits have a little graph, since you need to see consistency
over a
period of time.
Another difference between habits and tasks is this: If I get to the
end of my day and there are tasks yet undone, it means I need to
schedule them for another day. But if there are habits undone, *I
never reschedule them*. Once I reach a point during the day when I
know I no longer have time or opportunity to work on my habits, I just
hit K and exclude them from the view. What it means is that I'll try
again to do them tomorrow.
But since tasks are, in a way, much more self-important, they need to
be allocated to a certain day, or given a specific deadline -- whether
or not that deadline repeats itself.
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-24 1:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-19 8:26 Added support for "habit tracking" John Wiegley
2009-10-19 8:28 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-20 14:02 ` Matt Lundin
2009-10-20 15:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-10-20 15:56 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-10-20 16:55 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-20 17:13 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-20 17:19 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-20 18:20 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-20 16:48 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-20 17:11 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-10-20 18:30 ` Samuel Wales
2009-10-20 18:38 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-20 18:48 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-20 18:48 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-20 18:52 ` Sven Bretfeld
2009-10-20 18:56 ` Sven Bretfeld
2009-10-20 19:06 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-10-20 19:36 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-20 21:22 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-21 6:36 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-10-21 18:36 ` Matt Lundin
2009-10-21 22:40 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-23 6:10 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-23 10:34 ` John Wiegley
2009-10-23 15:24 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-24 1:20 ` John Wiegley [this message]
2009-10-24 12:55 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-10-24 14:36 ` Matthew Lundin
2009-10-25 12:26 ` Paul Mead
2009-10-25 12:37 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-10-25 12:50 ` Paul Mead
2009-10-25 12:38 ` Paul Mead
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