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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is there a better (built-in) way to insert an org link with title as description?
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 15:04:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB4977D05C404D8B5AB15F1640963FA@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68592813-e8d4-a9d6-cb3d-51804236413d@gmail.com> (Max Nikulin's message of "Thu, 20 Jul 2023 18:01:56 +0700")

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

Hi thank you for the thorough and well-informed answer.

> On 19/07/2023 19:06, Arthur Miller wrote:
>> I want to auto insert a title from an HTML page as description for an org link in
>> my notes.
>> (defun org-link-from-clipboard ()
> ...
>>        (url-retrieve url
>>         (lambda (buffer)
>>           (goto-char (point-min))
>>           (when (re-search-forward "<title>\\(.*\\)</title>" nil t)
>
> What are origins of your links?

> If it is an URL opened in browser then `org-capture' or
> org-protocol:/store-link/ may be used. There are a number of browser extensions
> for that.

I do use org-protocol, and I do have it in my FFX, so I am aware of it. But
sometimes I copy a link from a readme file or a piece of code or elsewhere and
wish to stash it away in a note but not necessary open in a browser. You know,
"todo" to come back later for it :).

> More metadata sometimes desired and just page title is not enough. For
> extracting it within Emacs see e.g. Ihor's
> https://github.com/yantar92/org-capture-ref
> Search for its discussions on this mailing lists.
>
> Some complications:
> - titles may have &...; entities
> - Not all pages have <title>, so heuristics have to be used.
Yepp, I am aware, the goal was not to be 100% fool proof. I had experienced
sometimes a couple of characters that Emacs can't dissambiguate, but it is not a
problem and yes, in case of no title it will prompt; the other strategy I used
was to return just url itself or "no description". Perhaps I should revert to
just the url.

> - Some HTML files contains nothing besides JavaScript to load actual content
> - Some URLs are from minifiers or obfuscated by Outlook "protection",
>   trampolines to prevent leaking of data through the Referer header, etc. Likely
>  redirection target should be saved, not original URL.
> - Some sites like GitHub have API that allows to get metadata in JSON format. It
>  is better than parsing HTML with regexp.

Yes, I am aware and completely agree with you!

Luckely I am getting quite old by now and don't visit too many sites or sites of
dubious JS character, so for my needs IDC :).

Miros idea served me well for several years now, I just improved it a bit the
other day to skip prmpting for the URL and used asynchornous download to skip
that slight second or two of delay in some links.

> Anyway I suggest to split non-interactive part of the command to allow code
> reuse (for drag and drop, etc.).

Tell me more here? Can I drag a link from one buffer into a note buffer, or how
can I use it?

Thank you for the answer.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-21 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-19 12:06 Is there a better (built-in) way to insert an org link with title as description? Arthur Miller
2023-07-20 10:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-21 14:18   ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-22  8:26     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-27  6:26       ` Arthur Miller
2023-07-20 11:01 ` Max Nikulin
2023-07-21 13:04   ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2023-07-22  2:49     ` Max Nikulin
2023-07-22 10:55       ` Ihor Radchenko

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