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So it does not need a >> > pacakge managmenet on os level. >> >> Package management is how users should install software. Otherwise you >> quickly reach the point where they blindly curl and run untrusted >> shell-scripts from shady websites. > > I agree with the assessment regarding shady websites. > >> > However, Org could also simply say: use another distro that has ditaa in >> > it's repository, such as Arch Linuz (in AUR). >> >> That would be openly hostile. No is not. There are so many distributions that are half-done, unmaintained, etc. By the way, if your distro does not have a package for ditaa, then you might maybe consider doing a community service and provide a package script for your distro? I guess your distro have some way for users to contribute a package? > If there exists the serious problem of not finding ditaa, then ditaa should be provided. > For the rest there exist no problem and users can easily install from their Package Manager. > > You can't brush off a boyfriend and expect him to do you a favor using Free Software > by telling him to use another distro. ;) > :-) It is just the usual one: "you deserve a better one ...."