From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Filippo A. Salustri" Subject: Re: Re: [OT] Have you also got hooked by Vim? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:28:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20110113083233.456b31bf@gaia.hsu-hh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0541175136==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33315 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PdMHp-0006hn-J8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:28:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdMHk-0005eB-Je for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:28:17 -0500 Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:42628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdMHk-0005da-6f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:28:12 -0500 Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so1651663wyj.0 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 04:28:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============0541175136== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99af649c2b70499b97344 --0016e6d99af649c2b70499b97344 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not that I want to (or even could) undermine the justifiable popularity of emacs, but there is a ongoing effort to port org to vim: vimorganizer 9 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3342) Cheers. Fil On 13 January 2011 03:34, Michael Brand wrote: > Hi Detlef > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 08:32, Detlef Steuer wrote: > > I would be interested to hear about difficulties you face when using > > org-mode together with viper. Or aren't there any? > > If not programming I use Org together with viper almost all the time > when in Emacs and I know only of two small difficulties: > > 1) With the wrong configuration when using Mac OS X Cocoa Emacs or > Aquamacs there can be slowness in vi/viper insert mode. In a Linux GNU > Emacs 23.2.1 I can not observe such slowness. For a workaround and > more see > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/35916 > > 2) Often in a Org table the vi/viper change commands like `ce' do not > replace but insert. I use workarounds like `dei'. In other places than > Org table this issue never happened to me. > > I can recommend viper very much with Org and also generally in Emacs > to have the best of both worlds of vi/Vim and Emacs together in one > place. Just for fun I imagine it being a vi with one mode additional > as an extension to the native vi modes like command mode, insert mode, > replace mode: the "Emacs mode". viper shows the letter V, I, R or E > for these four viper modes in the Emacs mode line. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng. Mechanical and Industrial Engineering Ryerson University 350 Victoria St, Toronto, ON M5B 2K3, Canada Tel: 416/979-5000 ext 7749 Fax: 416/979-5265 Email: salustri@ryerson.ca http://deseng.ryerson.ca/~fil/ --0016e6d99af649c2b70499b97344 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not that I want to (or even could) undermine the justifiable popularity of = emacs,
but there is a ongoing effort to port org to vim: vimorganizer 9= http://w= ww.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3D3342)
Cheers.
Fil

On 13 J= anuary 2011 03:34, Michael Brand <michael.ch.brand@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Hi Detlef

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 08:32, Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer@gmx.de> wrote:
> I would be interested to hear about difficulties you face when using > org-mode together with viper. Or aren't there any?

If not programming I use Org together with viper almost all the time<= br> when in Emacs and I know only of two small difficulties:

1) With the wrong configuration when using Mac OS X Cocoa Emacs or
Aquamacs there can be slowness in vi/viper insert mode. In a Linux GNU
Emacs 23.2.1 I can not observe such slowness. For a workaround and
more see
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/35916

2) Often in a Org table the vi/viper change commands like `ce' do not replace but insert. I use workarounds like `dei'. In other places than<= br> Org table this issue never happened to me.

I can recommend viper very much with Org and also generally in Emacs
to have the best of both worlds of vi/Vim and Emacs together in one
place. Just for fun I imagine it being a vi with one mode additional
as an extension to the native vi modes like command mode, insert mode,
replace mode: the "Emacs mode". viper shows the letter V, I, R or= E
for these four viper modes in the Emacs mode line.

Michael

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Mechanical and Industrial Engineering
Ryerson= University
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Fax: 416/979-5265
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