From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Brand Subject: Re: Re: [OT] Have you also got hooked by Vim? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:34:30 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20110113083233.456b31bf@gaia.hsu-hh.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33435 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PdIdc-00071e-Lp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 03:34:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdIdb-0006q5-HN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 03:34:32 -0500 Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:60030) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdIdb-0006px-EK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 03:34:31 -0500 Received: by iwn40 with SMTP id 40so1466974iwn.0 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:34:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110113083233.456b31bf@gaia.hsu-hh.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Detlef Steuer Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Detlef On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 08:32, Detlef Steuer wrote: > I would be interested to hear about difficulties you face when using > org-mode together with viper. Or aren't there any? If not programming I use Org together with viper almost all the time when in Emacs and I know only of two small difficulties: 1) With the wrong configuration when using Mac OS X Cocoa Emacs or Aquamacs there can be slowness in vi/viper insert mode. In a Linux GNU Emacs 23.2.1 I can not observe such slowness. For a workaround and more see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/35916 2) Often in a Org table the vi/viper change commands like `ce' do not replace but insert. I use workarounds like `dei'. In other places than Org table this issue never happened to me. I can recommend viper very much with Org and also generally in Emacs to have the best of both worlds of vi/Vim and Emacs together in one place. Just for fun I imagine it being a vi with one mode additional as an extension to the native vi modes like command mode, insert mode, replace mode: the "Emacs mode". viper shows the letter V, I, R or E for these four viper modes in the Emacs mode line. Michael