* unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
@ 2010-05-21 5:54 Livin Stephen Sharma
2010-05-21 11:58 ` Scot Becker
2010-05-21 12:22 ` Juri Krivov
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Livin Stephen Sharma @ 2010-05-21 5:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-org-mode-help gnu
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Context/Sample org content
current
**** unordered list
+ topA
+ innerA1
+ innerA2
+ topB
+ innerB1
proposed
**** unordered list
+ topA
- innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+'
- innerA2 <--- " " "
+ topB
- innerB1 <--- " " "
-----------------------------------------------------------------
When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list item ('topX' items),
the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the leading list-denoter character (-,+,*).
Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would make this list's items begin with a different list-denoter?
I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists) when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this could be provided as a built-in feature?
I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself.
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* Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
2010-05-21 5:54 unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Livin Stephen Sharma
@ 2010-05-21 11:58 ` Scot Becker
2010-05-21 12:22 ` Juri Krivov
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From: Scot Becker @ 2010-05-21 11:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Livin Stephen Sharma; +Cc: emacs-org-mode-help gnu
I like this idea, even as default, though I'm sure that some people
are doing things with org for which they would want to turn it off.
Scot
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma
<livin.stephen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Context/Sample org content
> current
> **** unordered list
> + topA
> + innerA1
> + innerA2
> + topB
> + innerB1
>
> proposed
> **** unordered list
> + topA
> - innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+'
> - innerA2 <--- " " "
> + topB
> - innerB1 <--- " " "
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list
> item ('topX' items),
> the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the
> leading list-denoter character (-,+,*).
> Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would make
> this list's items begin with a different list-denoter?
> I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists)
> when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this
> could be provided as a built-in feature?
> I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to
> *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself.
>
>
>
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* Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
2010-05-21 5:54 unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Livin Stephen Sharma
2010-05-21 11:58 ` Scot Becker
@ 2010-05-21 12:22 ` Juri Krivov
2010-05-21 14:07 ` [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring Bernt Hansen
2010-05-21 19:14 ` unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Livin Stephen Sharma
1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juri Krivov @ 2010-05-21 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Livin Stephen Sharma; +Cc: emacs-org-mode-help gnu
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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma <
livin.stephen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Context/Sample org content
>
> *current*
> **** unordered list
> + topA
> + innerA1
> + innerA2
> + topB
> + innerB1
>
>
> *proposed*
> **** unordered list
> + topA
> - innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+'
> - innerA2 <--- " " "
> + topB
> - innerB1 <--- " " "
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list
> item ('topX' items),
> the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the
> leading list-denoter character (-,+,*).
>
> Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would make
> this list's items begin with a different list-denoter?
>
> I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists)
> when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this
> could be provided as a built-in feature?
>
> I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to
> *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself.
>
>
> There seems to be already a setting that can achieve this.
It was discussed long time ago, here
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14793/focus=15214
In org-list.el, there is variable org-list-demote-modify-bullet. I have not
tried,
but it looks similar to your request.
Juri
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* [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring
2010-05-21 12:22 ` Juri Krivov
@ 2010-05-21 14:07 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-05-21 15:16 ` John Wiegley
2010-05-21 19:14 ` unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Livin Stephen Sharma
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2010-05-21 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: Bernt Hansen
---
This patch is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode.git typo
lisp/org-list.el | 2 +-
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
diff --git a/lisp/org-list.el b/lisp/org-list.el
index 566e0eb..417061f 100644
--- a/lisp/org-list.el
+++ b/lisp/org-list.el
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ heading will be exposed in a children' view."
(defcustom org-list-demote-modify-bullet nil
"Default bullet type installed when demoting an item.
This is an association list, for each bullet type, this alist will point
-to the bulled that should be used when this item is demoted."
+to the bullet that should be used when this item is demoted."
:group 'org-plain-lists
:type '(repeat
(cons
--
1.7.1.96.gc06ee
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* Re: [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring
2010-05-21 14:07 ` [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring Bernt Hansen
@ 2010-05-21 15:16 ` John Wiegley
2010-05-21 15:49 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: John Wiegley @ 2010-05-21 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On May 21, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
> ---
> This patch is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode.git typo
Applied. Bernt, did you get a notification by e-mail when I accepted your patch?
John
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* Re: [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring
2010-05-21 15:16 ` John Wiegley
@ 2010-05-21 15:49 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2010-05-21 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John Wiegley; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:
> On May 21, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
>
>> ---
>> This patch is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode.git typo
>
> Applied. Bernt, did you get a notification by e-mail when I accepted your patch?
Other than this message - no.
-Bernt
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* Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
2010-05-21 12:22 ` Juri Krivov
2010-05-21 14:07 ` [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring Bernt Hansen
@ 2010-05-21 19:14 ` Livin Stephen Sharma
2010-05-22 5:42 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Livin Stephen Sharma @ 2010-05-21 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-org-mode-help gnu
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Scott, Juri,
thank you for your replies.
'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing.
JohnW, BerntH, Carsten,
AFAICT, the manual does not mention it?
Thanks again!
Livin Stephen Sharma
On May 21, 2010, at 17:52:46 , Juri Krivov wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma <livin.stephen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Context/Sample org content
>
> current
> **** unordered list
> + topA
> + innerA1
> + innerA2
> + topB
> + innerB1
>
>
> proposed
> **** unordered list
> + topA
> - innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+'
> - innerA2 <--- " " "
> + topB
> - innerB1 <--- " " "
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list item ('topX' items),
> the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the leading list-denoter character (-,+,*).
>
> Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would make this list's items begin with a different list-denoter?
>
> I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists) when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this could be provided as a built-in feature?
>
> I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself.
>
>
> There seems to be already a setting that can achieve this.
> It was discussed long time ago, here
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14793/focus=15214
> In org-list.el, there is variable org-list-demote-modify-bullet. I have not tried,
> but it looks similar to your request.
> Juri
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* Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
2010-05-21 19:14 ` unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Livin Stephen Sharma
@ 2010-05-22 5:42 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-22 22:26 ` Livin Stephen Sharma
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-05-22 5:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Livin Stephen Sharma; +Cc: emacs-org-mode-help gnu
On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote:
> Scott, Juri,
> thank you for your replies.
>
> 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing.
>
> JohnW, BerntH, Carsten,
> AFAICT, the manual does not mention it?
Maybe you could suggest a place in the manual where you would have
liked to find this information? Maybe even a patch?
Thanks.
- Carsten
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* Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
2010-05-22 5:42 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-05-22 22:26 ` Livin Stephen Sharma
2010-05-23 5:11 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Livin Stephen Sharma @ 2010-05-22 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-org-mode-help gnu
Livin Stephen Sharma
On May 22, 2010, at 11:12:38 , Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote:
>
>> Scott, Juri,
>> thank you for your replies.
>>
>> 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing.
>>
>> JohnW, BerntH, Carsten,
>> AFAICT, the manual does not mention it?
>
> Maybe you could suggest a place in the manual where you would have liked to find this information? Maybe even a patch?
Section "2.7 Plain lists".
That was where I went looking for this information.
Perhaps between
a. the description of 'org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists', and
b. "The following commands act on items when the cursor is in the first line of an item (the line with the bullet or number)"
I can't submit a patch,
but this is what I might have liked to see (the documentation-addition that I might have submitted):
begin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you find that using a different bullet for a sub-list (than that used for the current list-level) improves readability, customize the variable 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet'. For example, this lisp in your '.emacs'
> (setq org-list-demote-modify-bullet
> (quote (
> ("+" . "-") ; sub-list uses '-' if cu
> ("-" . "+")
> ("*" . "+"))))
would result in such a 2-level list (which uses only '+'):
> **** Take 5!
> + Movies
> + Silence of the Lambs
> + My Cousin Vinny
> + Books
> + The Hunt for Red October
> + The Road to Omaha
instead looking like this (using '-' for sub-list)
> **** Take 5!
> + Movies
> - Silence of the Lambs
> - My Cousin Vinny
> + Books
> - The Hunt for Red October
> - The Road to Omaha
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
end
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Carsten
>
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* Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
2010-05-22 22:26 ` Livin Stephen Sharma
@ 2010-05-23 5:11 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-23 19:22 ` --RESOLVED-- " Livin Stephen Sharma
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-05-23 5:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Livin Stephen Sharma; +Cc: emacs-org-mode-help gnu
Hi Livin,
I have made the change to the manual much shorter, but moved the rest
of this into the docstring of the variable.
Thanks!
- Carsten
On May 23, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote:
>
> Livin Stephen Sharma
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2010, at 11:12:38 , Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote:
>>
>>> Scott, Juri,
>>> thank you for your replies.
>>>
>>> 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing.
>>>
>>> JohnW, BerntH, Carsten,
>>> AFAICT, the manual does not mention it?
>>
>> Maybe you could suggest a place in the manual where you would have
>> liked to find this information? Maybe even a patch?
>
> Section "2.7 Plain lists".
> That was where I went looking for this information.
>
> Perhaps between
> a. the description of 'org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists', and
> b. "The following commands act on items when the cursor is in the
> first line of an item (the line with the bullet or number)"
>
> I can't submit a patch,
> but this is what I might have liked to see (the documentation-
> addition that I might have submitted):
>
> begin
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If you find that using a different bullet for a sub-list (than that
> used for the current list-level) improves readability, customize
> the variable 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet'. For example, this lisp
> in your '.emacs'
>> (setq org-list-demote-modify-bullet
>> (quote (
>> ("+" . "-") ; sub-list uses '-' if cu
>> ("-" . "+")
>> ("*" . "+"))))
>
> would result in such a 2-level list (which uses only '+'):
>
>> **** Take 5!
>> + Movies
>> + Silence of the Lambs
>> + My Cousin Vinny
>> + Books
>> + The Hunt for Red October
>> + The Road to Omaha
>
> instead looking like this (using '-' for sub-list)
>
>> **** Take 5!
>> + Movies
>> - Silence of the Lambs
>> - My Cousin Vinny
>> + Books
>> - The Hunt for Red October
>> - The Road to Omaha
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> end
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>
>
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* Re: --RESOLVED-- unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
2010-05-23 5:11 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-05-23 19:22 ` Livin Stephen Sharma
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From: Livin Stephen Sharma @ 2010-05-23 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik, emacs-org-mode-help gnu
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Carsten,
thanks for accepting it.
It sure feels **good** to have contributed a *little*!
:)
Livin Stephen Sharma
On May 23, 2010, at 10:41:50 , Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi Livin,
>
> I have made the change to the manual much shorter, but moved the rest of this into the docstring of the variable.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Carsten
>
> On May 23, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote:
>
>>
>> Livin Stephen Sharma
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 22, 2010, at 11:12:38 , Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote:
>>>
>>>> Scott, Juri,
>>>> thank you for your replies.
>>>>
>>>> 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing.
>>>>
>>>> JohnW, BerntH, Carsten,
>>>> AFAICT, the manual does not mention it?
>>>
>>> Maybe you could suggest a place in the manual where you would have liked to find this information? Maybe even a patch?
>>
>> Section "2.7 Plain lists".
>> That was where I went looking for this information.
>>
>> Perhaps between
>> a. the description of 'org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists', and
>> b. "The following commands act on items when the cursor is in the first line of an item (the line with the bullet or number)"
>>
>> I can't submit a patch,
>> but this is what I might have liked to see (the documentation-addition that I might have submitted):
>>
>> begin
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> If you find that using a different bullet for a sub-list (than that used for the current list-level) improves readability, customize the variable 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet'. For example, this lisp in your '.emacs'
>>> (setq org-list-demote-modify-bullet
>>> (quote (
>>> ("+" . "-") ; sub-list uses '-' if cu
>>> ("-" . "+")
>>> ("*" . "+"))))
>>
>> would result in such a 2-level list (which uses only '+'):
>>
>>> **** Take 5!
>>> + Movies
>>> + Silence of the Lambs
>>> + My Cousin Vinny
>>> + Books
>>> + The Hunt for Red October
>>> + The Road to Omaha
>>
>> instead looking like this (using '-' for sub-list)
>>
>>> **** Take 5!
>>> + Movies
>>> - Silence of the Lambs
>>> - My Cousin Vinny
>>> + Books
>>> - The Hunt for Red October
>>> - The Road to Omaha
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> end
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
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