From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Livin Stephen Sharma Subject: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:24:08 +0530 Message-ID: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0945877781==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42412 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFLBY-0001BP-Nn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 01:54:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFLBX-0002e1-4Q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 01:54:16 -0400 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:64274) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFLBW-0002dv-VP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 01:54:15 -0400 Received: by pwi7 with SMTP id 7so634164pwi.0 for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 22:54:13 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-org-mode-help gnu --===============0945877781== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--238695273 --Apple-Mail-3--238695273 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Context/Sample org content current **** unordered list + topA + innerA1 + innerA2 + topB + innerB1 proposed **** unordered list + topA - innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+' - innerA2 <--- " " " + topB - innerB1 <--- " " " ----------------------------------------------------------------- When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list = item ('topX' items), the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the leading = list-denoter character (-,+,*). Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would = make this list's items begin with a different list-denoter? I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with = lists) when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, = perhaps this could be provided as a built-in feature? I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to = *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself. --Apple-Mail-3--238695273 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Context/Sample org = content

current
**** unordered = list
= + topA
  + innerA1
  + = innerA2
+ topB
  + = innerB1


proposed
=
**** unordered list
+ topA
  - = innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+'
  - = innerA2 <--- " " "
+ topB
  - = innerB1 <--- " " = "

-----------------------------------------------= ------------------


When creating = nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list item ('topX' = items),
the current behaviour does not make an effort to = change the leading list-denoter character = (-,+,*).

Could a feature be provided where = creating a such a child-list would make this list's items begin with a = different list-denoter?

I find it helps = readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists) when I = manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this could = be provided as a built-in feature?

I don't know = lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to *find* the = time to learn JJ) so I can't code this = myself.



= --Apple-Mail-3--238695273-- --===============0945877781== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============0945877781==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scot Becker Subject: Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 12:58:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56583 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFQsq-0001BS-FO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 07:59:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFQso-0005qn-Eb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 07:59:20 -0400 Received: from mail-pv0-f169.google.com ([74.125.83.169]:63988) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFQsn-0005qI-K0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 07:59:18 -0400 Received: by pvg2 with SMTP id 2so605624pvg.0 for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 04:59:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Livin Stephen Sharma Cc: emacs-org-mode-help gnu I like this idea, even as default, though I'm sure that some people are doing things with org for which they would want to turn it off. Scot On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote: > > Context/Sample org content > current > **** unordered list > + topA > + innerA1 > + innerA2 > + topB > + innerB1 > > proposed > **** unordered list > + topA > - innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+' > - innerA2 <--- " " " > + topB > - innerB1 <--- " " " > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list > item ('topX' items), > the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the > leading list-denoter character (-,+,*). > Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would make > this list's items begin with a different list-denoter? > I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists) > when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this > could be provided as a built-in feature? > I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to > *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Juri Krivov Subject: Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 14:22:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0353780525==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34775 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFRFa-0002vz-Nd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 08:22:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFRFY-0001jP-Vv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 08:22:50 -0400 Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:61661) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFRFY-0001jK-M3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 08:22:48 -0400 Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so406206wyb.0 for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 05:22:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Livin Stephen Sharma Cc: emacs-org-mode-help gnu --===============0353780525== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6da7dcfafa103048719bfb2 --0016e6da7dcfafa103048719bfb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma < livin.stephen@gmail.com> wrote: > > Context/Sample org content > > *current* > **** unordered list > + topA > + innerA1 > + innerA2 > + topB > + innerB1 > > > *proposed* > **** unordered list > + topA > - innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+' > - innerA2 <--- " " " > + topB > - innerB1 <--- " " " > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list > item ('topX' items), > the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the > leading list-denoter character (-,+,*). > > Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would make > this list's items begin with a different list-denoter? > > I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists) > when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this > could be provided as a built-in feature? > > I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to > *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself. > > > There seems to be already a setting that can achieve this. It was discussed long time ago, here http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14793/focus=15214 In org-list.el, there is variable org-list-demote-modify-bullet. I have not tried, but it looks similar to your request. Juri --0016e6da7dcfafa103048719bfb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Livin S= tephen Sharma <livin.stephen@gmail.com> wrote:

Context/Sample org content

current
**** unordered list
+ t= opA
=A0 + innerA1
<= div> =A0 + innerA2
+ topB
=A0 + innerB1


prop= osed
**** unordered list
+ topA
=A0 - inner= A1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+'
= =A0 - innerA2 <--- " "= ; "
+ topB
=A0 - innerB1=A0<--- " " "<= /div>

--------------------------------------------------= ---------------


When creating nested/child lists ('i= nnerX' items) under an existing list item ('topX' items),
=
the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the leading=A0= list-denoter=A0character (-,+,*).

Could a feature be provided where creating a such a chi= ld-list would make this list's items begin with a different list-denote= r?

I find it helps readability (and hence efficien= cy when working with lists) when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If o= thers agree, perhaps this could be provided as a built-in feature?

I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly loo= king like it may be time to *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't cod= e this myself.


There seems to be already a setting that can achieve this.<= /div>
It was discussed long time ago, here
In org-list.el, there is variable org-list-demote-modify-bu= llet. =A0I have not tried,
but it looks similar to your request.<= /div>
Juri
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Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============0353780525==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 10:07:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1274450825-23961-1-git-send-email-bernt@norang.ca> References: Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49475 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFSt7-0000GK-Vl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 10:07:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFSt6-00072H-3E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 10:07:45 -0400 Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.72]:52341) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFSt6-00070w-1G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 10:07:44 -0400 Received: from cpe000102d0fe75-cm0012256ecbde.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([99.239.148.180] helo=mail.norang.ca) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1OFSsy-000ASJ-0V for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 14:07:36 +0000 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Cc: Bernt Hansen --- This patch is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode.git typo lisp/org-list.el | 2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/org-list.el b/lisp/org-list.el index 566e0eb..417061f 100644 --- a/lisp/org-list.el +++ b/lisp/org-list.el @@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ heading will be exposed in a children' view." (defcustom org-list-demote-modify-bullet nil "Default bullet type installed when demoting an item. This is an association list, for each bullet type, this alist will point -to the bulled that should be used when this item is demoted." +to the bullet that should be used when this item is demoted." :group 'org-plain-lists :type '(repeat (cons -- 1.7.1.96.gc06ee From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Wiegley Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:16:23 -0400 Message-ID: <80661822-913C-49A6-81AD-8768F33E2B5A@gmail.com> References: <1274450825-23961-1-git-send-email-bernt@norang.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45150 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFTxf-0002jS-Hn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:16:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFTxa-0000oH-Nu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:16:31 -0400 Received: from mail-pv0-f169.google.com ([74.125.83.169]:62056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFTxa-0000lH-Bf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:16:26 -0400 Received: by mail-pv0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 2so781276pvg.0 for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 08:16:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1274450825-23961-1-git-send-email-bernt@norang.ca> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bernt Hansen Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On May 21, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > --- > This patch is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode.git typo Applied. Bernt, did you get a notification by e-mail when I accepted = your patch? John From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix typo in org-list-demote-modify-bullet docstring Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:49:20 -0400 Message-ID: <87mxvt2r27.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> References: <1274450825-23961-1-git-send-email-bernt@norang.ca> <80661822-913C-49A6-81AD-8768F33E2B5A@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50674 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFUTZ-0006TE-Mu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:49:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFUTU-0006K5-9G for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:49:25 -0400 Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.72]:56541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFUTU-0006Ju-5O for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 11:49:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <80661822-913C-49A6-81AD-8768F33E2B5A@gmail.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Fri\, 21 May 2010 11\:16\:23 -0400") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org John Wiegley writes: > On May 21, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > >> --- >> This patch is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode.git typo > > Applied. Bernt, did you get a notification by e-mail when I accepted your patch? Other than this message - no. -Bernt From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Livin Stephen Sharma Subject: Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 00:44:34 +0530 Message-ID: <433B3BC8-32FC-48EA-9657-3913A1153467@gmail.com> References: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1679604675==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33697 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFXgB-0005Ia-1Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 15:14:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFXg9-0003pm-3y for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 15:14:42 -0400 Received: from mail-px0-f169.google.com ([209.85.212.169]:54907) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFXg8-0003pi-RZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 21 May 2010 15:14:41 -0400 Received: by pxi12 with SMTP id 12so1299475pxi.0 for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 12:14:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-org-mode-help gnu --===============1679604675== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14--190669080 --Apple-Mail-14--190669080 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Scott, Juri, thank you for your replies. 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing. JohnW, BerntH, Carsten, AFAICT, the manual does not mention it? Thanks again! Livin Stephen Sharma On May 21, 2010, at 17:52:46 , Juri Krivov wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma = wrote: >=20 > Context/Sample org content >=20 > current > **** unordered list > + topA > + innerA1 > + innerA2 > + topB > + innerB1 >=20 >=20 > proposed > **** unordered list > + topA > - innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+' > - innerA2 <--- " " " > + topB > - innerB1 <--- " " " >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 > When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing = list item ('topX' items), > the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the leading = list-denoter character (-,+,*). >=20 > Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would = make this list's items begin with a different list-denoter? >=20 > I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with = lists) when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, = perhaps this could be provided as a built-in feature? >=20 > I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to = *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself. >=20 >=20 > There seems to be already a setting that can achieve this. > It was discussed long time ago, here > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/14793/focus=3D15214 > In org-list.el, there is variable org-list-demote-modify-bullet. I = have not tried, > but it looks similar to your request. > Juri --Apple-Mail-14--190669080 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Scott, Juri,
 thank you for your replies.

'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing.

JohnW, BerntH, Carsten,
 AFAICT, the manual does not mention it?

Thanks again!
Livin Stephen Sharma



On May 21, 2010, at 17:52:46 , Juri Krivov wrote:



On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma <livin.stephen@gmail.com> wrote:

Context/Sample org content

current
**** unordered list
+ topA
  + innerA1
  + innerA2
+ topB
  + innerB1


proposed
**** unordered list
+ topA
  - innerA1 <--- '-' used automatically instead of '+'
  - innerA2 <--- " " "
+ topB
  - innerB1 <--- " " "

-----------------------------------------------------------------


When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list item ('topX' items),
the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the leading list-denoter character (-,+,*).

Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would make this list's items begin with a different list-denoter?

I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists) when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this could be provided as a built-in feature?

I don't know lisp, (& it's increasingly looking like it may be time to *find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself.


There seems to be already a setting that can achieve this.
It was discussed long time ago, here
In org-list.el, there is variable org-list-demote-modify-bullet.  I have not tried,
but it looks similar to your request.
Juri

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Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============1679604675==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 07:42:38 +0200 Message-ID: <91E58053-BE22-4E22-9E0B-F0BB4BDF6969@gmail.com> References: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> <433B3BC8-32FC-48EA-9657-3913A1153467@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60432 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFhTx-00053B-3s for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 May 2010 01:42:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFhTv-0006Fl-Lu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 May 2010 01:42:44 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f216.google.com ([209.85.219.216]:48505) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFhTv-0006Fg-Ek for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 May 2010 01:42:43 -0400 Received: by ewy8 with SMTP id 8so316888ewy.8 for ; Fri, 21 May 2010 22:42:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <433B3BC8-32FC-48EA-9657-3913A1153467@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Livin Stephen Sharma Cc: emacs-org-mode-help gnu On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote: > Scott, Juri, > thank you for your replies. > > 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing. > > JohnW, BerntH, Carsten, > AFAICT, the manual does not mention it? Maybe you could suggest a place in the manual where you would have liked to find this information? Maybe even a patch? Thanks. - Carsten From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Livin Stephen Sharma Subject: Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 03:56:06 +0530 Message-ID: <23A9E1C8-83D7-4263-B700-05E7A243FDD4@gmail.com> References: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> <433B3BC8-32FC-48EA-9657-3913A1153467@gmail.com> <91E58053-BE22-4E22-9E0B-F0BB4BDF6969@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53670 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OFx9B-0005Re-NV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 May 2010 18:26:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFx94-0004Fx-I2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 May 2010 18:26:21 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f176.google.com ([209.85.222.176]:60108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFx94-0004Fm-DK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 22 May 2010 18:26:14 -0400 Received: by pzk6 with SMTP id 6so968189pzk.1 for ; Sat, 22 May 2010 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <91E58053-BE22-4E22-9E0B-F0BB4BDF6969@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-org-mode-help gnu Livin Stephen Sharma On May 22, 2010, at 11:12:38 , Carsten Dominik wrote: >=20 > On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote: >=20 >> Scott, Juri, >> thank you for your replies. >>=20 >> 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing. >>=20 >> JohnW, BerntH, Carsten, >> AFAICT, the manual does not mention it? >=20 > Maybe you could suggest a place in the manual where you would have = liked to find this information? Maybe even a patch? Section "2.7 Plain lists". That was where I went looking for this information. Perhaps between a. the description of 'org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists', and b. "The following commands act on items when the cursor is in the first = line of an item (the line with the bullet or number)" I can't submit a patch, but this is what I might have liked to see (the documentation-addition = that I might have submitted): begin = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------ If you find that using a different bullet for a sub-list (than that used = for the current list-level) improves readability, customize the = variable 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet'. For example, this lisp in your = '.emacs' > (setq org-list-demote-modify-bullet > (quote ( > ("+" . "-") ; sub-list uses '-' if cu > ("-" . "+") > ("*" . "+")))) would result in such a 2-level list (which uses only '+'): > **** Take 5! > + Movies > + Silence of the Lambs > + My Cousin Vinny > + Books > + The Hunt for Red October > + The Road to Omaha instead looking like this (using '-' for sub-list) > **** Take 5! > + Movies > - Silence of the Lambs > - My Cousin Vinny > + Books > - The Hunt for Red October > - The Road to Omaha = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------ end >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > - Carsten >=20 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 07:11:50 +0200 Message-ID: <2E226CFB-75FE-4B8C-84B0-8BD25D85965C@gmail.com> References: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> <433B3BC8-32FC-48EA-9657-3913A1153467@gmail.com> <91E58053-BE22-4E22-9E0B-F0BB4BDF6969@gmail.com> <23A9E1C8-83D7-4263-B700-05E7A243FDD4@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43338 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OG3hI-0001fw-Hc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 01:26:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OG3Te-0003Uo-Rb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 01:11:56 -0400 Received: from mail-wy0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:57277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OG3Te-0003Uj-NC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 01:11:54 -0400 Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22so713726wyf.0 for ; Sat, 22 May 2010 22:11:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <23A9E1C8-83D7-4263-B700-05E7A243FDD4@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Livin Stephen Sharma Cc: emacs-org-mode-help gnu Hi Livin, I have made the change to the manual much shorter, but moved the rest of this into the docstring of the variable. Thanks! - Carsten On May 23, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote: > > Livin Stephen Sharma > > > > On May 22, 2010, at 11:12:38 , Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> >> On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote: >> >>> Scott, Juri, >>> thank you for your replies. >>> >>> 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing. >>> >>> JohnW, BerntH, Carsten, >>> AFAICT, the manual does not mention it? >> >> Maybe you could suggest a place in the manual where you would have >> liked to find this information? Maybe even a patch? > > Section "2.7 Plain lists". > That was where I went looking for this information. > > Perhaps between > a. the description of 'org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists', and > b. "The following commands act on items when the cursor is in the > first line of an item (the line with the bullet or number)" > > I can't submit a patch, > but this is what I might have liked to see (the documentation- > addition that I might have submitted): > > begin > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > If you find that using a different bullet for a sub-list (than that > used for the current list-level) improves readability, customize > the variable 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet'. For example, this lisp > in your '.emacs' >> (setq org-list-demote-modify-bullet >> (quote ( >> ("+" . "-") ; sub-list uses '-' if cu >> ("-" . "+") >> ("*" . "+")))) > > would result in such a 2-level list (which uses only '+'): > >> **** Take 5! >> + Movies >> + Silence of the Lambs >> + My Cousin Vinny >> + Books >> + The Hunt for Red October >> + The Road to Omaha > > instead looking like this (using '-' for sub-list) > >> **** Take 5! >> + Movies >> - Silence of the Lambs >> - My Cousin Vinny >> + Books >> - The Hunt for Red October >> - The Road to Omaha > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > end > > > > >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Carsten >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Livin Stephen Sharma Subject: Re: --RESOLVED-- unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 00:52:18 +0530 Message-ID: <12EDFFA9-D1B9-45BE-8C9C-D695FD611F0E@gmail.com> References: <5FA5F8DA-901B-40AF-A35D-DB7FE8580B78@gmail.com> <433B3BC8-32FC-48EA-9657-3913A1153467@gmail.com> <91E58053-BE22-4E22-9E0B-F0BB4BDF6969@gmail.com> <23A9E1C8-83D7-4263-B700-05E7A243FDD4@gmail.com> <2E226CFB-75FE-4B8C-84B0-8BD25D85965C@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0188439954==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45526 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGGkl-0007xw-Ra for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 15:22:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGGkj-0000cl-VT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 15:22:27 -0400 Received: from mail-px0-f169.google.com ([209.85.212.169]:37524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGGkj-0000cf-Hi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2010 15:22:25 -0400 Received: by pxi12 with SMTP id 12so3178572pxi.0 for ; Sun, 23 May 2010 12:22:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2E226CFB-75FE-4B8C-84B0-8BD25D85965C@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik , emacs-org-mode-help gnu --===============0188439954== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--17405165 --Apple-Mail-3--17405165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Carsten, thanks for accepting it. It sure feels **good** to have contributed a *little*! :) Livin Stephen Sharma On May 23, 2010, at 10:41:50 , Carsten Dominik wrote: > Hi Livin, >=20 > I have made the change to the manual much shorter, but moved the rest = of this into the docstring of the variable. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > - Carsten >=20 > On May 23, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Livin Stephen Sharma >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On May 22, 2010, at 11:12:38 , Carsten Dominik wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Scott, Juri, >>>> thank you for your replies. >>>>=20 >>>> 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was missing. >>>>=20 >>>> JohnW, BerntH, Carsten, >>>> AFAICT, the manual does not mention it? >>>=20 >>> Maybe you could suggest a place in the manual where you would have = liked to find this information? Maybe even a patch? >>=20 >> Section "2.7 Plain lists". >> That was where I went looking for this information. >>=20 >> Perhaps between >> a. the description of 'org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists', and >> b. "The following commands act on items when the cursor is in the = first line of an item (the line with the bullet or number)" >>=20 >> I can't submit a patch, >> but this is what I might have liked to see (the = documentation-addition that I might have submitted): >>=20 >> begin >> = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------ >> If you find that using a different bullet for a sub-list (than that = used for the current list-level) improves readability, customize the = variable 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet'. For example, this lisp in your = '.emacs' >>> (setq org-list-demote-modify-bullet >>> (quote ( >>> ("+" . "-") ; sub-list uses '-' if cu >>> ("-" . "+") >>> ("*" . "+")))) >>=20 >> would result in such a 2-level list (which uses only '+'): >>=20 >>> **** Take 5! >>> + Movies >>> + Silence of the Lambs >>> + My Cousin Vinny >>> + Books >>> + The Hunt for Red October >>> + The Road to Omaha >>=20 >> instead looking like this (using '-' for sub-list) >>=20 >>> **** Take 5! >>> + Movies >>> - Silence of the Lambs >>> - My Cousin Vinny >>> + Books >>> - The Hunt for Red October >>> - The Road to Omaha >> = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------ >> end >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks. >>>=20 >>> - Carsten >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >=20 > - Carsten >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-3--17405165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Livin Stephen = Sharma


=

On May 23, 2010, at 10:41:50 , Carsten Dominik = wrote:

Hi Livin,

I have made the change to the manual = much shorter, but moved the rest of this into the docstring of the = variable.

Thanks!

- Carsten

On May 23, 2010, at = 12:26 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma wrote:


Livin Stephen = Sharma



On May 22, = 2010, at 11:12:38 , Carsten Dominik wrote:


On May 21, 2010, at 9:14 PM, = Livin Stephen Sharma wrote:

Scott, = Juri,
thank = you for your = replies.

'org-list-demote-modify-bullet' is exactly what I was = missing.

JohnW, = BerntH, Carsten,
AFAICT, = the manual does not mention = it?

Maybe you could suggest a place = in the manual where you would have liked to find this information? =  Maybe even a patch?

Section "2.7 = Plain lists".
That was where I = went looking for this information.

Perhaps = between
a. the description of = 'org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists', and
b. "The following commands act on items when the cursor is = in the first line of an item (the line with the bullet or = number)"

I can't submit = a patch,
but this is what I = might have liked to see (the documentation-addition that I might have = submitted):

begin
------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------
If you find that using a different bullet for a = sub-list (than that used for the current list-level) improves = readability,  customize the variable = 'org-list-demote-modify-bullet'. For example, this lisp in your = '.emacs'
(setq = org-list-demote-modify-bullet
 (quote = (
= = =  ("+" . "-") ; sub-list uses '-' if = cu
= = =  ("-" . "+")
 ("*" . = "+"))))

would result in = such a 2-level list (which uses only '+'):

**** Take 5!
+ = Movies
=   + Silence of the = Lambs
=   + My Cousin = Vinny
= + Books
  + The Hunt for Red = October
=   + The Road to = Omaha

instead looking = like this (using '-' for sub-list)

**** Take 5!
+ = Movies
=   - Silence of the = Lambs
=   - My Cousin = Vinny
= + Books
  - The Hunt for Red = October
=   - The Road to = Omaha
------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------
end





Thanks.

- = Carsten



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