From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scot Becker Subject: Re: how difficultwould it be to support zotero in org? Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 18:33:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87lj7kapzq.wl%dmaus@ictsoc.de> <4C801DFC.8030700@christianmoe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0203345128==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39367 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Orwck-0002dk-EL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:33:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Orwcg-0008Sw-CH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:33:54 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.213.41]:63122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Orwcg-0008Ss-7n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:33:50 -0400 Received: by ywl5 with SMTP id 5so1611515ywl.0 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2010 10:33:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matt Price Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============0203345128== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e642d1a83f2cfa048f72735e --0016e642d1a83f2cfa048f72735e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Matt, On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Matt Price wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Scot Becker wrote: > >> Another Zotero + org user here. Right now I do what Christian does: >> export Zotero to slightly tweakedBibTeX, and insert with RefTeX's amazingly cool reference-insertion >> interface (another genius piece of work by Carsten). > > i'm getting nearly convinced to go this route. May I ask, do you use > reftex from within org? I'm not quite sure on how that would wok (but also > I'm not that familiar w/ the latex parts of the documentation...). > Yes, RefTeX's job is just to insert a \cite{BibTeX_key} command. It doesn't care what the major mode is when you call it. And though I sympathize with the reasons not to use LaTeX for academic writing in the humanities (since few potential colaborators do, and publishers hardly ever will), recent developments in the BibTeX realm have reduced the problems there. If you haven't seen BibLaTeX, have a look at it, it's a BibTeX replacement with much more flexibility. There are already a few interesting citation engines build on top of it: biblatex-chicago, which I use and am happy with (it's in-progress, but in very active development), and another biblatex style for historians(which I can't speak to.) The whole process of exporting a document of any complexity to MS Word format sounds daunting, but I'm glad to hear that others have had some success with it. Many thanks for starting this thread. I've learned a lot. Scot --0016e642d1a83f2cfa048f72735e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt,
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Matt P= rice <moptop99@g= mail.com> wrote:


On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at= 4:12 PM, Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com> wrote:
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Another Zotero + org user here.=A0 Right now I do what Christian does: expo= rt Zotero to slightly tweaked BibTeX, and insert with RefTeX's ama= zingly cool reference-insertion interface (another genius piece of work by = Carsten).=A0
i'm getting nearly convinced to go this route.=A0 May I ask,= do you use reftex from within org?=A0 I'm not quite sure on how that w= ould wok (but also I'm not that familiar w/ the latex parts of the docu= mentation...).

=A0Yes, RefTeX's job is just to inser= t a \cite{BibTeX_key} command.=A0 It doesn't care what the major mode i= s when you call it.=A0 And though I sympathize with the reasons not to use = LaTeX for academic writing in the humanities (since few potential colaborat= ors do, and publishers hardly ever will), recent developments in the BibTeX= realm have reduced the problems there.=A0 If you haven't seen B= ibLaTeX, have a look at it, it's a BibTeX replacement with much mor= e flexibility.=A0 There are already a few interesting citation engines buil= d on top of it: b= iblatex-chicago, which I use and am happy with (it's in-progress, b= ut in very active development), and another biblatex style = for historians (which I can't speak to.)=A0

The whole process of exporting a document of any complexity to MS Word = format sounds daunting, but I'm glad to hear that others have had some = success with it.=A0 Many thanks for starting this thread. I've learned = a lot.

Scot

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