From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Samuel Wales Subject: Re: Agenda sorting strategy Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 19:14:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87wrq2pa7c.fsf@mundaneum.com> <1E2BA636-1F1E-4B75-B693-AAAAF5992999@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48496 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P2x38-0007gM-2S for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:14:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P2x36-0006HL-GT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:14:37 -0400 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:46281) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P2x36-0006HD-42 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 22:14:36 -0400 Received: by pwj6 with SMTP id 6so3831529pwj.0 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:14:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1E2BA636-1F1E-4B75-B693-AAAAF5992999@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Vauban?= , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org org-agenda-cmp-user-defined + org-entry-get =3D solution. On 2010-10-04, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Oct 1, 2010, at 10:51 AM, S=E9bastien Vauban wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Here is a minimal example of problems I experience with the sorting >> strategy >> of the agenda. >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> * Appointments >> >> ** Technician for washing machine >> <2010-10-01 Fri> >> >> I don't know when he will come. He'll call a couple of minutes >> before coming. >> >> ** TV show >> <2010-10-01 Fri 19:00-20:00> >> >> * Task areas >> >> ** Work >> :PROPERTIES: >> :CATEGORY: Work >> :END: >> >> *** TODO [#A] Reply to mail >> SCHEDULED: <2010-09-29 Wed> >> >> *** TODO Work on offer >> SCHEDULED: <2010-09-30 Thu> >> >> *** TODO Have the report ready for my boss >> DEADLINE: <2010-10-08 Fri> >> >> ** Personal >> :PROPERTIES: >> :CATEGORY: Personal >> :END: >> >> *** TODO [#A] Call neighbor >> SCHEDULED: <2010-09-27 Mon> >> >> *** TODO Put oil on the outside table >> SCHEDULED: <2010-09-28 Tue> >> >> *** TODO Invite some friends >> SCHEDULED: <2010-10-01 Fri> >> >> * Agenda sorting strategy >> >> ** Objectives >> >> Get the tasks sorted: >> >> - by priority ("A", "B" or "C"), then >> - by "role" (category "personal" or "work"), then >> - by delay >> >> i.e., >> >> : Sched: Technician for washing machine >> : 8:00-09:00 ________ >> : 10:00-11:00 ________ >> : 12:00-13:00 ________ >> : 14:00-15:00 ________ >> : 16:00-17:00 ________ >> : 18:00-19:00 ________ >> : Sched: 19:00-20:00 TV show >> : 20:00-21:00 ________ >> : 22:00-23:00 ________ >> : Personal: Sched. 5x: TODO [#A] Call neighbor >> : Work: Sched. 3x: TODO [#A] Reply to mail >> : Personal: Sched. 4x: TODO Put oil on the outside table >> : Personal: Scheduled: TODO Invite some friends >> : Work: Sched. 2x: TODO Work on offer >> : Work: In 7 d.: TODO Have the report ready for my boss >> >> Note that I would like (well "dated" but) "untimed" events (such as >> "The >> technician will come today") to be just before the day overview. >> Would it be >> just after, it's OK as well, but less visible. >> >> : 8:00-09:00 ________ >> : 10:00-11:00 ________ >> : 12:00-13:00 ________ >> : 14:00-15:00 ________ >> : 16:00-17:00 ________ >> : 18:00-19:00 ________ >> : Sched: 19:00-20:00 TV show >> : 20:00-21:00 ________ >> : 22:00-23:00 ________ >> : Sched: Technician for washing machine >> : Personal: Sched. 5x: TODO [#A] Call neighbor >> : Work: Sched. 3x: TODO [#A] Reply to mail >> : Personal: Sched. 4x: TODO Put oil on the outside table >> : Personal: Scheduled: TODO Invite some friends >> : Work: Sched. 2x: TODO Work on offer >> : Work: In 7 d.: TODO Have the report ready for my boss >> >> But, anyway, I cannot get any of these! >> >> What is important to see as well is that all my A tasks are at the >> top of the >> list (sorted by category: first Personal, then Work), then all my B >> tasks >> (sorted by category: first Personal, then Work). >> >> ** Default value >> >> #+begin_src emacs-lisp >> (setq org-agenda-sorting-strategy >> '((agenda habit-down time-up priority-down category-keep) >> (todo priority-down category-keep) >> (tags priority-down category-keep) >> (search category-keep))) >> #+end_src >> >> #+results: >> : 8:00-09:00 ________ >> : 10:00-11:00 ________ >> : 12:00-13:00 ________ >> : 14:00-15:00 ________ >> : 16:00-17:00 ________ >> : 18:00-19:00 ________ >> : Sched: 19:00-20:00 TV show >> : 20:00-21:00 ________ >> : 22:00-23:00 ________ >> : Personal: Sched. 5x: TODO [#A] Call neighbor >> : Work: Sched. 3x: TODO [#A] Reply to mail >> : Personal: Sched. 4x: TODO Put oil on the outside table >> : Work: Sched. 2x: TODO Work on offer >> : Personal: Scheduled: TODO Invite some friends >> : Sched: Technician for washing machine >> : Work: In 7 d.: TODO Have the report ready for my boss >> >> ** Custom value >> >> #+begin_src emacs-lisp >> (setq org-agenda-sorting-strategy >> '((agenda priority-down category-up time-up) >> (todo priority-down category-keep) >> (tags priority-down category-keep) >> (search category-keep))) >> #+end_src >> >> #+results: >> : Personal: Sched. 5x: TODO [#A] Call neighbor >> : Work: Sched. 3x: TODO [#A] Reply to mail >> : Personal: Sched. 4x: TODO Put oil on the outside table >> : Work: Sched. 2x: TODO Work on offer >> : Personal: Scheduled: TODO Invite some friends >> : Sched: 19:00-20:00 TV show >> : Sched: Technician for washing machine >> : Work: In 7 d.: TODO Have the report ready for my boss >> : 8:00-09:00 ________ >> : 10:00-11:00 ________ >> : 12:00-13:00 ________ >> : 14:00-15:00 ________ >> : 16:00-17:00 ________ >> : 18:00-19:00 ________ >> : 20:00-21:00 ________ >> : 22:00-23:00 ________ >> >> Observations: >> >> - for equivalent priorities (B), *tasks are not sorted by category* >> (?): >> + Personal: Sched. 4x: TODO Put oil on the outside table >> + Work: Sched. 2x: TODO Work on offer >> + Personal: Scheduled: TODO Invite some friends > > The reason for this is that the priority has several components. > The specified priority #B (even if omitted) is one component. > But since "Work on offer" was already scheduled yesterday, > its priority is pushed up. You can see the computed priority > by pressing "P" on items in the agenda. > > >> >> - day overview is at the end of the buffer (!!) > > > To get this right, you need time-up early in the strategy. > >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> >> Can you help me getting what I want? > > Hope this at least helps to understand what is going on. > > I guess we could have a variable to make priority only > consider the priority cookies and not the urgency depending > on deadlines and scheduling dates. Or make the priority formula > configurable. But neither of these is currently implemented, so > changing this would require some code to be written. > > - Carsten > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > --=20 Q: How many CDC "scientists" does it take to change a lightbulb? 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