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From: Aankhen <aankhen@gmail.com>
To: William Gardella <gardellawg@gmail.com>,
	Org-mode ml <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Continuation of main section text after subsections ?
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:54:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTiktsT4noZBdBHmis7S0egsn-ePqpS1wTm1sFS4o@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vcz4ebu9.fsf@lw-wireless-pittnet-40-144.wireless.pitt.edu>

Hullo,

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 22:32, William Gardella <gardellawg@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marcel van der Boom <marcel@hsdev.com> writes:
>
>> On zo 27-mrt-2011 16:52
>> Cian <cian.oconnor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can't do that, as it would be akin to trying to have in a book
>>>
>>> Section 1
>>> Stuff
>>> Section 1.1.1
>>> More stuff
>>>
>>> Now this goes under Section 1
>>>
>>> Not really an idiom that makes sense (I find its best to think of
>>> org-mode's headings as chapter headers
>>
>> Agreed, for paper books that would not make much sense (depending on
>> how you do it) and that fact kept me from asking the question for a
>> while.
>> For electronic texts however, especially in the drafting stage where
>> (sub-)sections get shuffled around, promoted, demoted, split etc. it
>> does make sense, to me at least.
>>
>> When writing I tend to think about org headings as 'handles' to a
>> logical block of information, including its child blocks. Apparently my
>> analogy clashes with what org-mode wants. I had my hopes on a
>> customization option.
>>
>> Is there a strong reason this could not work as an option in org-mode?
>>
>> marcel
>
> Marcel,
>
> I think this is not yet easily possible in org-mode due to the
> limitations of org's rather simple concept of markup.  Because org tries
> to stay out of the way of the user's choice of indentation flow, for
> example, whitespace can't be used to indicate that your text has
> returned to the top level after entering a subheading.  And unlike in,
> e.g., HTML or LaTeX, there's no way of "closing" the subheading
> environment explicitly.
>
> As Cian suggests, some alternatives you can use are to employ drawers or
> environments such as #+BEGIN_NOTE.
>
> I also use Org as a drafting tool, mostly for documents that will end up
> as papers or legal documents rendered with LaTeX.  There are a few
> ambiguities in the markup that are hard to resolve without going the
> additional step of exporting to HTML or LaTeX and editing that output.
> You've just stumbled into one of them...

Out of curiosity, how would you return to an enclosing context in
LaTeX or DocBook?  In HTML, of course, you can nest ‘div’ elements (or
proper ‘section’ elements in HTML5) and alternate subsections and text
to your heart’s content.  As far as I know, there is no equivalent in
the other two formats: you need to use other containers within the
section, such as lists or tables.

Aankhen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-27 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-27 15:02 Continuation of main section text after subsections ? Marcel van der Boom
2011-03-27 15:37 ` Jambunathan K
2011-03-27 15:52   ` Cian
2011-03-27 16:11     ` Marcel van der Boom
2011-03-27 16:34       ` William Gardella
2011-03-27 16:45       ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-27 17:00         ` Thomas S. Dye
2011-03-27 16:49       ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-27 17:08         ` Nicolas
2011-03-27 17:10           ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-27 17:02       ` William Gardella
2011-03-27 17:08         ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-27 17:18           ` William Gardella
2011-03-27 17:20             ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-27 20:21             ` Achim Gratz
2011-03-27 21:26               ` William Gardella
2011-03-29 18:59             ` Matt Lundin
2011-03-30  6:26               ` Aankhen
2011-03-28 14:54           ` Marcel van der Boom
2011-03-27 18:24         ` Aankhen [this message]
2011-03-27 19:29           ` Samuel Wales
2011-03-27 19:48       ` Cian
2011-03-28  0:00 ` FAQ? (was: Continuation of main section text after subsections ?) Memnon Anon
2011-03-28  8:36   ` Marcel van der Boom
2011-07-02 12:18     ` FAQ? Bastien
2011-03-29 18:54 ` Continuation of main section text after subsections ? Matt Lundin
2011-03-30 10:05   ` Rasmus
2011-03-30 11:06     ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-31  1:41     ` Matt Lundin
2011-03-31  3:25       ` Samuel Wales
2011-03-31  3:26         ` Samuel Wales
2011-03-31  3:31         ` Samuel Wales
2011-03-31 20:04         ` Matt Lundin
2011-03-31 22:14           ` Aankhen
2011-03-30 18:26 ` Mark Elston

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