I use HTML for Blogger. My org headers rely on H levels. One of my posts actually has 4 levels of org hierarchy, including title. You might laugh at that much hierarchy, but most of you are nerds, so I hope you understand. :) Posts sometimes naturally have that much hierarchy and it feels silly to remove cues. Browsers don't distinguish the headline levels enough, in my experience. I have a lot of headlines so that the reader doesn't get lost in the middle of a wall of text. Some of my audience is very, very intelligent and has cognitive issues like short-term memory, concentration, etc. Therefore, hierarchy is both useful and necessary to distinguish clearly. === I could use "-----" for the lowest level, just as I used "===" above, but I don't think that was meant for the lowest level, as it extends to the entire width. Also, it seems nicer to have a label to orient the reader in a lot of cases. Something to take the place of my plain text "===" would be very useful, but probably not sufficient. I realize I can do something like centering a string like "---". Bullet lists would be silly in this case, as it's just normal text and the reader will wonder why some things are indented and others not. I don't want to go to numbered sections. === Maybe we could somehow skip H levels, so it goes H3 for title, then H5, H7, H9. But browsers might not understand such low level headlines. Maybe I could have other attributes to set, like centering and large non-bold, for specific levels. So, say, top is large bold centered, then large non-bold centered, then smaller bold, then smaller non-bold. Can things like that be done in org? I don't know if CSS is possible or easy in Blogger, especially for specific posts. Maybe some of you have ideas. Thanks. Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com I support WPI: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html -- PLEASE DONATE === I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MLV paper.
I am still very curious about what other orgers (orgsters? organizers?) do for this. Do you just do this every time you want a within-headline section? #+begin_center --- #+end_center That is strangely longer than "-----", which I take to be a higher-level section divider than headlines because it extends all the way across the page. More importantly (because I know of no solution yet) how do you get the headline levels to be more distinct? Thanks. Samuel On 2011-01-23, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote: > I use HTML for Blogger. My org headers rely on H levels. > One of my posts actually has 4 levels of org hierarchy, > including title. > > You might laugh at that much hierarchy, but most of you are > nerds, so I hope you understand. :) Posts sometimes > naturally have that much hierarchy and it feels silly to > remove cues. > > Browsers don't distinguish the headline levels enough, in my > experience. > > I have a lot of headlines so that the reader doesn't get > lost in the middle of a wall of text. Some of my audience > is very, very intelligent and has cognitive issues like > short-term memory, concentration, etc. > > Therefore, hierarchy is both useful and necessary to distinguish clearly. > > === > > I could use "-----" for the lowest level, just as I used > "===" above, but I don't think that was meant for the lowest > level, as it extends to the entire width. Also, it seems > nicer to have a label to orient the reader in a lot of > cases. > > Something to take the place of my plain text "===" would be > very useful, but probably not sufficient. I realize I can > do something like centering a string like "---". > > Bullet lists would be silly in this case, as it's just > normal text and the reader will wonder why some things are > indented and others not. > > I don't want to go to numbered sections. > > === > > Maybe we could somehow skip H levels, so it goes H3 for > title, then H5, H7, H9. But browsers might not understand > such low level headlines. > > Maybe I could have other attributes to set, like centering > and large non-bold, for specific levels. So, say, top is > large bold centered, then large non-bold centered, then > smaller bold, then smaller non-bold. > > Can things like that be done in org? > > I don't know if CSS is possible or easy in Blogger, > especially for specific posts. > > Maybe some of you have ideas. > > Thanks. > > Samuel > > -- > The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com > I support WPI: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html -- PLEASE DONATE > === > I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MLV > paper. > -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com I support WPI: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html -- PLEASE DONATE === I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MLV paper.
[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 975 bytes --] At Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:30:00 -0700, Samuel Wales wrote: > Maybe we could somehow skip H levels, so it goes H3 for > title, then H5, H7, H9. But browsers might not understand > such low level headlines. > > Maybe I could have other attributes to set, like centering > and large non-bold, for specific levels. So, say, top is > large bold centered, then large non-bold centered, then > smaller bold, then smaller non-bold. > > Can things like that be done in org? > > I don't know if CSS is possible or easy in Blogger, > especially for specific posts. Okay, if I understood you correctly you use headlines to give a blog post a structure and you are concerned with the appearance of the blog entry when displayed by a reader's browser. If this is the case, then using CSS is the solution. Cf. http://www.google.com/support/blogger/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=41954 Best, -- David -- OpenPGP... 0x99ADB83B5A4478E6 Jabber.... dmjena@jabber.org Email..... dmaus@ictsoc.de [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 230 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
David, Very interesting, thank you. Is it possible to style Blogger's post titles this way (i.e. in a permanent way) too? Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2010/12/welcome-to-kafka-pandemic-two-forces_9182.html I support the Whittemore-Peterson Institute (WPI) === I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MLV paper.
[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 596 bytes --] At Sun, 30 Jan 2011 13:07:56 -0700, Samuel Wales wrote: > > David, > > Very interesting, thank you. > > Is it possible to style Blogger's post titles this way (i.e. in a > permanent way) too? Dunno much about Blogger but why not? If you can define a custom CSS than you can change the look/layout of all elements in your post. Just check which element is used for titles[1] and modify the CSS accordingly. Best, -- David [1] The Firefox extensions Firebug [http://getfirebug.com/] might come in handy. -- OpenPGP... 0x99ADB83B5A4478E6 Jabber.... dmjena@jabber.org Email..... dmaus@ictsoc.de [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 230 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode