From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Hendy Subject: Re: Making folded items less dangerous Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:14:28 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0253079323==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51085 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OoKUY-0002FZ-Cx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:14:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoKUW-0005F9-WF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:14:30 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:53664) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OoKUW-0005F2-PL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:14:28 -0400 Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so1038995vws.0 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:14:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Dave Abrahams Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============0253079323== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e647663434cac3048ea9dab7 --0016e647663434cac3048ea9dab7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Dave Abrahams wrote: > Hi All, > > I've gotten myself in trouble several times today by backspacing after > an org-link that ends a headline. That's a typical pattern for > editing an org-link, right? Well it turns out that if the item is > folded, then the backspace writes over the end of the un-folded item > but **appears to have no effect**, and you can easily hit backspace > several times to test your sanity before you realize that something is > wrong, badly corrupting your file. > > Seems to me that attempts to edit a folded item should either: > > a) restrict changes to the item's headline, or > b) unfold the item and do nothing > I like these ideas. Or even the "this text is read only" message in the mini-buffer when hitting delete at the ellipsis after a headline? I can see both sides (it's come up before): 1) that it's "just text" like everything else so what should one expect but also 2) it doesn't *behave* like text and especially for newer individuals when you keep hitting delete because you don't get what's going on or you lose track of the cursor and press some key combination... it is a bummer. John > > Is there a way to set that up? > > Thanks, > > -- > Dave Abrahams > BoostPro Computing > http://www.boostpro.com > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > --0016e647663434cac3048ea9dab7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Dave Abrahams <= span dir=3D"ltr"><dave@boostpro.com= > wrote:
Hi All,

I've gotten myself in trouble several times today by backspacing after<= br> an org-link that ends a headline. =A0That's a typical pattern for
editing an org-link, right? =A0Well it turns out that if the item is
folded, then the backspace writes over the end of the un-folded item
but **appears to have no effect**, and you can easily hit backspace
several times to test your sanity before you realize that something is
wrong, badly corrupting your file.

Seems to me that attempts to edit a folded item should either:

a) restrict changes to the item's headline, or
b) unfold the item and do nothing

I lik= e these ideas. Or even the "this text is read only" message in th= e mini-buffer when hitting delete at the ellipsis after a headline? I can s= ee both sides (it's come up before):
1) that it's "just text" like everything else so what sh= ould one expect but also

2) it doesn't beha= ve like text and especially for newer individuals when you keep hitting= delete because you don't get what's going on or you lose track of = the cursor and press some key combination... it is a bummer.


John
=A0

Is there a way to set that up?

Thanks,

--
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.c= om

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