From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel Martins Subject: Re: Re: Request for opinions: [ANN] List improvement v.2o Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:50:54 -0300 Message-ID: References: <87ocdzw7gq.wl%n.goaziou@gmail.com> <17A93AC0-1896-481D-B2E9-E1DA5879A1D0@gmail.com> <878w445s43.fsf@mundaneum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1038666307==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36260 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OlrTN-0005DO-Dd for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:51:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OlrTE-00018V-1L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:50:57 -0400 Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:35405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OlrTD-00018G-Ub for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:50:56 -0400 Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16so1195141vws.0 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:50:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878w445s43.fsf@mundaneum.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_Vauban?= Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============1038666307== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4e8878e3ef3b4b048e20e5f2 --e0cb4e8878e3ef3b4b048e20e5f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the opposite view. I did not tried yet the code because I am a naive git user and worry about messing things up adding another complex branch. However I must say that all my lists (and I have a lot of them!) do not satisfy me completely. The problem of breaking indentation and changing patterns in the middle of lists is often annoying. I am willing to have some work to rearrange all my lists if the implementation is changing the viewpoint we have about lists (therefore turning future impriovements easier) and the code is intrisically coherent as I think Nicolas code is. In other words, One vote for Nicolas code. Daniel 2010/8/18 S=E9bastien Vauban > Hi Carsten and Nicolas, > > Carsten Dominik wrote: > > On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > > > 2. Some existing documents will break because we now need an end-of-lis= t > > that is clearly defined, and not by indentation. Nicolas proposes a > > double empty line or some special string to be defined. Breaking > existing > > documents is always bad, of cause. I still hope we can do something > > about this if we think really hard, like making text that is less > > indented than the list *also* terminate a list. > > From what I understood, without testing anything of it (yet), I would > really > urge for a support of old documents (the ones with simple constructions) = by > adopting a rule like the one you propose, where indentation could termina= te > the list. > > Best regards, > Seb > > -- > S=E9bastien Vauban > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > --e0cb4e8878e3ef3b4b048e20e5f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the opposite view.

I did not tried yet the code because I am = a naive git user and worry about messing things up adding another complex b= ranch.

However I must say that all my lists (and I have a lot of the= m!) do not satisfy me completely. The problem of breaking indentation and c= hanging=A0 patterns in the middle of lists is often annoying.

I am willing to have some work to rearrange all my lists if the impleme= ntation is changing the viewpoint we have about lists (therefore turning fu= ture impriovements easier) and the code is intrisically coherent as I think= Nicolas code is.

In other words, One vote for Nicolas code.

Daniel

2010/8/18 S=E9bastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com>= ;
Hi Carsten and Ni= colas,

Carsten Dominik wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
>
> 2. Some existing documents will break because = we now need an end-of-list
> =A0 that is clearly defined, and not by indentation. =A0Nicolas propos= es a
> =A0 double empty line or some special string to be defined. =A0Breakin= g existing
> =A0 documents is always bad, of cause. =A0I still hope we can do somet= hing
> =A0 about this if we think really hard, like making text that is less<= br> > =A0 indented than the list *also* terminate a list.

From what I understood, without testing anything of it (yet), I would= really
urge for a support of old documents (the ones with simple constructions) by=
adopting a rule like the one you propose, where indentation could terminate=
the list.

Best regards,
=A0Seb

--
S=E9bastien Vauban


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