From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Don Womick Subject: Re: ErgoEmacs Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:59:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1836021529==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43487 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkHH7-0007MB-5l for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:59:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkHH5-0002sr-PJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:59:52 -0400 Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:49992) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkHH5-0002sj-Kb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:59:51 -0400 Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so1800636gyb.0 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 06:59:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============1836021529== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e644ded83f6064048dc9036f --0016e644ded83f6064048dc9036f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Whoops, C-w is close-buffer; save is C-s. Other keys that have moved: C-space to M-space C-n to M-k C-p to M-i C-f to M-l (lowercase L) C-b to M-j C-s to M-; (M-; to M-') C-r to M-S-; These seem reasonable, though radically different from what an Emacs user is used to... but for someone new to Emacs, they are much better than the Emacs defaults, in my opinion. My fingers will need some retraining, though :) --Don On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Don Womick wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just found ErgoEmacs (http://ergoemacs.org), another Emacs > distribution for Windows that tries to make Emacs easy to use for ordinary > users... and it does so: I was able to use it immediately, with all the > standard Windows shortcuts--the only things that tripped me up briefly were > the file commands (C-xf moved to C-o and C-xw moved to C-w), and that they > moved M-x to M-a (M-x now cuts the entire line). This looks like a distro > that might ease the learning curve enough to drive more widespread adoption > of Emacs (and org-mode!): it really does seem to be as easy to use as > Notepad right out of the box, yet doesn't take away any of the power of > Emacs (as far as I can tell, except that I did have to load an org-mode file > before capture would work, but that may be a setup problem on my part). If > you're on Windows, take a look and see what you think... and for org newbies > on win32, I think this is the version I would recommend. > > --Don > --0016e644ded83f6064048dc9036f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whoops, C-w is close-buffer; save is C-s.

Other keys that have moved= :

C-space to M-space
C-n to M-k
C-p to M-i
C-f to M-l (lowe= rcase L)
C-b to M-j
C-s to M-; (M-; to M-')
C-r to M-S-;

These seem reasonable, though radically different from what an Emacs us= er is used to... but for someone new to Emacs, they are much better than th= e Emacs defaults, in my opinion. My fingers will need some retraining, thou= gh :)

--Don

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 9:07 AM= , Don Womick <= don.womick@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I've just found ErgoEmacs (http://ergoemacs.org), another Emacs distributio= n for Windows that tries to make Emacs easy to use for ordinary users... an= d it does so: I was able to use it immediately, with all the standard Windo= ws shortcuts--the only things that tripped me up briefly were the file comm= ands (C-xf moved to C-o and C-xw moved to C-w), and that they moved M-x to = M-a (M-x now cuts the entire line). This looks like a distro that might eas= e the learning curve enough to drive more widespread adoption of Emacs (and= org-mode!): it really does seem to be as easy to use as Notepad right out = of the box, yet doesn't take away any of the power of Emacs (as far as = I can tell, except that I did have to load an org-mode file before capture = would work, but that may be a setup problem on my part). If you're on W= indows, take a look and see what you think... and for org newbies on win32,= I think this is the version I would recommend.

--Don

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