From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jing Su Subject: Fwd: Synchronize files among computers via MobileOrg, and create tasks from iPhones? Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:08:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4CF6A97C.4080203@ccbr.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0050316729==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40515 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PNvmx-0004xa-QM for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:08:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNvmw-0001ng-54 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:08:39 -0500 Received: from mail-ww0-f41.google.com ([74.125.82.41]:33788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNvmv-0001na-Tt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:08:38 -0500 Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so1636234wwi.0 for ; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:08:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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(no, I am not fancying typing M-x org-add-planning-info or C-c C-x C-a, I mean something that can support .elc files) As for the "notes on iphone" idea, I still have not got used to it. Say when I am fishing outside and receive a phone call from a friend inviting me for a party tonight; I decide to buy some gift on my way home, and invite this friend for dinner next weekend. With the MobileOrg I have to put details into notes, put a reminder on some other calendars for buying the gift, and remember to copy and paste the notes as new tasks tonight -- if I am not drunk or too tired by that time. Or if I can put two items in my org files with reminders, one task for the gift, one project for the dinner next week, then continue fishing in a worry-free mode. Yes, being able to capture notes is great, but allowing creating new tasks would be greater. I am just curious why such basic functions of the org-mode are not available for MobileOrg -- due to technical issues (no Emacs runtime environment available on iPhones yet), or due to the philosophy that smartphones are not supposed to be used to create new tasks, or currently most smartphone users do not need such functions yet? I feel that smartphones gradually take the role of traditional computers, and it is wise to begin to port most frequently used functions of the org-mode onto smartphones. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Erik Iverson wrote: > > > Jing Su wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Just curious that if we could push to the MobileOrg server, e.g., DropBox, >> from a computer, and pull it down from another computer, so that we can >> synchronize org files on different computers via MobileOrg. >> > > I store all my *actual* org files on Dropbox, along with the Mobile Org > versions. This gives me sync'ing between all my computers with Dropbox > installed. > > > I used to use CVS for synchronizing, but now SSHing in and out are blocked >> at my working places, so I can no longer synchronize files between home >> computers and work computers via ssh+cvs. Could someone kindly suggest some >> methods to securely synchronize files without ssh please? >> > > This I am not sure about, although some people use org-crypt for this > I think. There is also something called "mobile org crypt" also which > lets you store encrypted org files on Dropbox for viewing on the iphone. > > http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg32149.html > > > >> It would also be great if more functions of the org-mode (e.g., creating >> new tasks) can be accessed from an iPhone. I am struggling to decide if I >> should stay with Org-mode (I love Emacs) or switch to outlook. >> > > !!! > > I can access all functions of my online calendars from my iPhone or from >> Outlook or a web browser on any computer; but for MobileOrg, I have to put >> things as notes on my iPhone, then do the copy/paste later when I can access >> my MAIN desktop -- synchronizing org files among computers is painful, as I >> just explained, so I have to set one as the MAIN desktop for using the >> org-mode. >> > > Not if you just use Dropbox for storing your actual org files. Also, > there is org-mobile-pull that should pull in any notes captured on > the iPhone and place them in an org file of your choosing for > refiling. > > As for calendar, there are tools on the list for synching with > Google calendar, although not from mobile org as far as I know. > > -- Jing Su, PhD -- Jing Su, PhD --0016e65a01bc8d34c70496616267 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

---------- Forwarded message ----------<= br>From: Jing Su <jing.su.66@gmail.com>Date: Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Synchronize files among computers via MobileOrg, and= create tasks from iPhones?
To: Erik Iverson <eriki@ccbr.umn.edu>


Great idea to set the = org-directory as the DropBox! I am thinking about trying it too, though kee= ping two copies in the DropBox is kind of odd.=A0 If only there is an iPhon= e version of the org-mode! or even an Emacs environment! (no, I am not fanc= ying typing M-x org-add-planning-info or C-c C-x C-a, I mean something that= can support .elc files)

As for the "notes on iphone" idea, I still have not got used = to it. Say when I am fishing outside and receive a phone call from a friend= inviting me for a party tonight; I decide to buy some gift on my way home,= and invite this friend for dinner next weekend. With the MobileOrg I have = to put details into notes, put a reminder on some other calendars for buyin= g the gift, and remember to copy and paste the notes as new tasks tonight -= - if I am not drunk or too tired by that time. Or if I can put two items in= my org files with reminders, one task for the gift, one project for the di= nner next week, then continue fishing in a worry-free mode. Yes, being able= to capture notes is great, but allowing creating new tasks would be greate= r.

I am just curious why such basic functions of the org-mode are not avai= lable for MobileOrg -- due to technical issues (no Emacs runtime environmen= t available on iPhones yet), or due to the philosophy that smartphones are = not supposed to be used to create new tasks, or currently most smartphone u= sers do not need such functions yet? I feel that smartphones gradually take= the role of traditional computers, and it is wise to begin to port most fr= equently used functions of the org-mode onto smartphones.


On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Erik Ive= rson <eriki@ccbr.umn.edu> wrote:


Jing Su wrote:
Dear all,

Just curious that if we could push to the MobileOrg server, e.g., DropBox, = from a computer, and pull it down from another computer, so that we can syn= chronize org files on different computers via MobileOrg.

I store all my *actual* org files on Dropbox, along with the Mobile Org
versions. =A0This gives me sync'ing between all my computers with Dropb= ox
installed.


I used to use CVS for synchronizing, but now SSHing in and out are blocked = at my working places, so I can no longer synchronize files between home com= puters and work computers via ssh+cvs. Could someone kindly suggest some me= thods to securely synchronize files without ssh please?

This I am not sure about, although some people use org-crypt for this
I think. =A0There is also something called "mobile org crypt" als= o which
lets you store encrypted org files on Dropbox for viewing on the iphone.
http://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-orgmode@gnu.org/msg321= 49.html



It would also be great if more functions of the org-mode (e.g., creating ne= w tasks) can be accessed from an iPhone. I am struggling to decide if I sho= uld stay with Org-mode (I love Emacs) or switch to outlook.

!!!

I can access all functions of my online calendars from my iPhone or from Ou= tlook or a web browser on any computer; but for MobileOrg, I have to put th= ings as notes on my iPhone, then do the copy/paste later when I can access = my MAIN desktop -- synchronizing org files among computers is painful, as I= just explained, so I have to set one as the MAIN desktop for using the org= -mode.

Not if you just use Dropbox for storing your actual org files. Also,
there is org-mobile-pull that should pull in any notes captured on
the iPhone and place them in an org file of your choosing for
refiling.

As for calendar, there are tools on the list for synching with
Google calendar, although not from mobile org as far as I know.




--
Jing Su, PhD





--
Jing Su, PhD


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