* Kill text in org mode
@ 2008-06-11 20:26 John
2008-06-11 21:49 ` Peter Jones
2008-06-12 5:49 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: John @ 2008-06-11 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Last week I moved from planner-el to org-mode and find it great.
Thanks to Sacha Chua and John Wiegley for their articles ("Choosing
between Org and Planner", "Using org-mode as a Day Planner").
One should tell all the planner guys to have a look at org-mode. So much
more convenient.
--------------
I do have two minor questions regarding org-mode:
1. To kill some text from the mark till the begining of
a line, I usually type in:
- C-SPC to run `set-mark-command', then
- C-a to run `beginning-of-line', and then
- M-w to run `kill-ring-save'
But in org-mode `C-a' is bound to `org-beginning-of-line' which
quits marking region. Thus `M-w' can't work anymore.
The same is true with `org-end-of-line' (C-e).
2. In org-mode I can't seem to `isearch' (C-s) words with accented
characters. For instance, when searching for "résumé", XEmacs
starts searching for the leading `r' and then quits upon typing
in the first `é'. This never happens to me in other modes.
Thanks for your help.
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2008-06-11 20:26 Kill text in org mode John
@ 2008-06-11 21:49 ` Peter Jones
2008-06-12 5:49 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Peter Jones @ 2008-06-11 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
John <jlr_0@yahoo.com> writes:
> 1. To kill some text from the mark till the begining of
> a line, I usually type in:
> - C-SPC to run `set-mark-command', then
> - C-a to run `beginning-of-line', and then
> - M-w to run `kill-ring-save'
>
> But in org-mode `C-a' is bound to `org-beginning-of-line' which
> quits marking region. Thus `M-w' can't work anymore.
This doesn't happen for me. You might want to ensure you have the
latest version.
Also, a faster way to kill from point to the beginning of the line is:
C-- C-k
That is, Control-minus and then Control-k.
--
Peter Jones, http://pmade.com
pmade inc. Louisville, CO US
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2008-06-11 20:26 Kill text in org mode John
2008-06-11 21:49 ` Peter Jones
@ 2008-06-12 5:49 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-06-12 18:13 ` John
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-06-12 5:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi John,
On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:26 PM, John wrote:
> Last week I moved from planner-el to org-mode and find it great.
> Thanks to Sacha Chua and John Wiegley for their articles ("Choosing
> between Org and Planner", "Using org-mode as a Day Planner").
>
> One should tell all the planner guys to have a look at org-mode. So
> much
> more convenient.
>
> --------------
> I do have two minor questions regarding org-mode:
>
> 1. To kill some text from the mark till the begining of
> a line, I usually type in:
> - C-SPC to run `set-mark-command', then
> - C-a to run `beginning-of-line', and then
> - M-w to run `kill-ring-save'
>
> But in org-mode `C-a' is bound to `org-beginning-of-line' which
> quits marking region. Thus `M-w' can't work anymore.
>
> The same is true with `org-end-of-line' (C-e).
Fixed, thanks.
> 2. In org-mode I can't seem to `isearch' (C-s) words with accented
> characters. For instance, when searching for "résumé", XEmacs
> starts searching for the leading `r' and then quits upon typing
> in the first `é'. This never happens to me in other modes.
This is a bug in XEmacs, in the definition of the variable `isearch-
mode-map'. In this map, all printing characters should be bound to
`isearch-printing-char', but the setup does not handle non-ascii
characters correctly, I believe. The purpose of this code is to
exactly handle packages like Org where all normal characters are bound
to a special function - but the implementation of this function is
incomplete. A better implementation could be to find all characters
that are bound to self-insert-command in the global map and make the
replacement binding for those.
Please report this as a bug to the XEmacs people, I do not have the
time to fix this myself.
- Carsten
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
>
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread* Re: Kill text in org mode
2008-06-12 5:49 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2008-06-12 18:13 ` John
2008-06-13 10:03 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: John @ 2008-06-12 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <C.Dominik <at> uva.nl> writes:
> This is a bug in XEmacs, in the definition of the variable `isearch-
> mode-map'. In this map, all printing characters should be bound to
> `isearch-printing-char', but the setup does not handle non-ascii
> characters correctly, I believe. The purpose of this code is to
> exactly handle packages like Org where all normal characters are bound
> to a special function - but the implementation of this function is
> incomplete. A better implementation could be to find all characters
> that are bound to self-insert-command in the global map and make the
> replacement binding for those.
That's strange because whenever I isearch words with accented characters
in other modes then it works fine. The problem only occurs when using org mode.
--
John
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* Re: Re: Kill text in org mode
2008-06-12 18:13 ` John
@ 2008-06-13 10:03 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-06-13 10:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Jun 12, 2008, at 8:13 PM, John wrote:
> Carsten Dominik <C.Dominik <at> uva.nl> writes:
>
>> This is a bug in XEmacs, in the definition of the variable `isearch-
>> mode-map'. In this map, all printing characters should be bound to
>> `isearch-printing-char', but the setup does not handle non-ascii
>> characters correctly, I believe. The purpose of this code is to
>> exactly handle packages like Org where all normal characters are
>> bound
>> to a special function - but the implementation of this function is
>> incomplete. A better implementation could be to find all characters
>> that are bound to self-insert-command in the global map and make the
>> replacement binding for those.
>
> That's strange because whenever I isearch words with accented
> characters
> in other modes then it works fine. The problem only occurs when
> using org mode.
Hi John,
please re-read my reply which you quote above. I did explain that
most other modes do not need this special treatment because in most
modes, printing characters are bound to self-insert-command. However,
XEmacs does cater for modes that redefine normal letters etc, but it
does s in an icomplete way.
- Carsten
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