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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
Cc: emacs-orgmode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Proposed key binding changes: archiving and attachments
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:33:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A1C73CE8-3FCC-4A1B-A494-43E4B0B99278@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2zl7915bo.fsf@fastmail.fm>


On Oct 30, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I would like to change some key bindings related to archiving,
>> and this change will also affect the access key for attachments.
>>
>> The main reason is that I think there should be a single default key
>> for archiving, and that the user sets a variable to decide what the
>> default
>> archiving method should be.  I would like this key to be `C-c C-a'  
>> which
>> is why the org-attach key would have to move as well.
>>
>> Here is my proposal:
>>
>> In Org-mode files
>> -----------------
>>
>> C-c C-a      archive default (setq by org-archive-default-command)
>> C-c C-x C-s  org-archive-subtree (C-c $ remains valid as well)
>> C-c C-x a    org-toggle-archive-tag
>> C-c C-x A    org-archive-to-archive-sibling
>>
>> C-c C-x C-a  attach
>
> Since I've taken to using attachments quite a bit, I would most likely
> restore the current keybindings in my own settings.
>
> My chief concern with mapping archiving to C-c C-a is that it is too
> close to the conventional keybinding for org-agenda (C-c a). With the
> proposed keybindings, I fear it might be too easy to introduce drastic
> changes in a file accidentally. (E.g., I sometimes hit C-c C-a when I
> intend to hit C-c a and vice versa.)
>
>>
>> In the agenda
>> -------------
>> a            archive with org-archive-default-command
>> C-c C-a      same as a
>> C-c C-x a    org-toggle-archive-tag
>> C-c C-x A    org-archive-to-archive-sibling
>> C-c C-x C-s  org-archive-subtree ($ remains valid as well)
>
> Again, I would prefer that C-c C-a remain bound to org-attach.
>
> I currently unbind "a" (org-toggle-archive-tag) in the agenda. In the
> past, items often mysteriously disappeared from my agenda view. I
> discovered the cause: I was occasionally hitting "a" by accident.
>
> I agree with Peter that commands with relatively destructive
> consequences (such as archiving) should not be bound to a single key.
> One wouldn't want to miss an appointment because one accidentally hits
> "a" in the agenda. :)

These are convincing arguments from you all, so I will leave things as  
they
are, except that I will make "a" in the agenda prompt for [y]es and  
then do the archiving, using the default archiving command.  So  
archiving from the agenda will then be `a y'.

- Carsten

>
> Thanks for giving us the chance to provide feedback on these proposed
> changes.

Well, I just learned again how important this is.  Thanks for chiming in

>
> - Matt
>
>>
>>
>> I am wondering how much resistance such a change would create.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> - Carsten

- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-30 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-30  6:54 Proposed key binding changes: archiving and attachments Carsten Dominik
2009-10-30  9:54 ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-10-30 10:31   ` Peter Frings
2009-10-30 12:35     ` Bernt Hansen
2009-10-31  9:13   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-10-31 13:23     ` Bernt Hansen
2009-10-31 14:56     ` Matt Lundin
2009-10-30 11:36 ` Matt Lundin
2009-10-30 13:33   ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-11-06 13:40     ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-06 15:42       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-06 15:56         ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-07  1:11           ` Daniel Martins
2009-11-07  6:33             ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-07  7:11               ` David Bremner
2009-11-07 20:50                 ` Daniel Martins
2009-11-08 18:24               ` Paul Mead
2009-11-09 10:46                 ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-09 21:07                 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-10-30 13:58   ` Detlef Steuer
2009-10-30 17:54 ` Leo

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