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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1643476741; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Z7S1p0D05O2wlwCjIkNjuUk6vD+NcUas3JuUg2E+OOM=; b=SMDyYEHljjxR1vHmS4c9XEO+9ks5dLln+VEdfVJ4vCCSE3UzcjvrT3tZcy9fCCG7zGB8Ep h4SgQApgX0TR6XMJG4208xdYx5dB2F3dHfkVD7mcWMwjqxd4x70DeE7gQI/0AfH4LVmdat T8TrIK4jKnc0D47ccciFXyrWi8BMpqJeduVw1GzQGDbFVsuDJvMsTB7aL6ckpcGfEULdJf Wjy/rfowhKGkb7cBXAsbd7+frZWxhqWW24G38lNZy6kLan4yTo5TaOPtFWCrpXD6bu3YkD poGNvGHPsjL67WndqcEOcoYjLD9oZNEns7VOZ9x9trLUAPCD0S4CahIn/NIk4Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1643476741; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=rX0Dy8KDjmZAU/ina8TbtgViBGtjgtRk3QJSyE+MUjVeCpEzUPdaAM/LmcMgMWeCkqsEYo YxLOb3uxGwXMbORN95W/hwTcUMcKcSg2XXQpVMLxy7Bsbmdg/3xMaxx8vSHmqpTGzQag4Z fKIbfIdhAe4uovDdVsNHVxgnENnFKAC92CFx/f5YLSt/N2Glhk/+fsdezJy6MliwKVydwY 1JLtcmB5LMrLJpwhHK3nZVw9Qr0QNBEdRiBhgDrwUUIwMzDPGRTGu0moKr+ti7CvxD2AWW nqpA0FN2f/jqe8PwBkavcHqL8PTRCZziMsrDH+ad1fDqEnAeAaPEtBsHfV6H1w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.63 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A89332AEBF X-Spam-Score: -2.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: RwknBzAZZEya Thank you for the very helpful high-level view of things, Ihor. This = will help me a lot going forward. Best, Jeff > On Jan 28, 2022, at 18:41 PM, Ihor Radchenko = wrote: >=20 > Jeff writes: >=20 >> Sorry for the delay responding. >=20 > No problem. This list does not have reddit pacing :) >=20 >> The problem resolved after updating Doom Emacs. >=20 > Great! >=20 >> I=E2=80=99m not sure why it resolved, because the org-mode version = remained >> the same. >=20 > Doom Emacs uses development version of Org mode. As you update, only > latest commit number in the version is going to change: >=20 > M-x org-version > Org mode version 9.5.2 (9.5.2-g2c70ca <-- latest commit number >=20 >> I am new to emacs and so also to Doom Emacs. I=E2=80=99m not sure if >> it is good practice to upgrade Doom Emacs packages I=E2=80=99m using = with my >> Doom configuration or my wait until Doom does that in a Doom Emacs >> upgrade. >=20 > You may consider Doom Emacs upgrade as slightly more stable compared = to > manual update ahead of other Doom users. This particular problem with > Org appears because we introduced a major and complex change to Org. = It > is not yet stable. We are fixing incoming bugs as they are reported. > Things should be more stable in a few months. >=20 > Best, > Ihor >=20 >=20