From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ethan Subject: Re: Column mode a whole file Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:22:05 -0400 Message-ID: <9cd2f5ff0907302122m11d97066s22e603f9c9fc0294@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cd2f5ff0907292112o14fee1b1m11b9cc0f56a5cdde@mail.gmail.com> <87zlamz9sm.fsf@kassiopeya.MSHEIMNETZ> <87eirxlk5z.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1383237400==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWjdD-000716-JD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:22:11 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MWjd9-0006w7-Uh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:22:11 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60559 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MWjd9-0006vm-N2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:22:07 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f184.google.com ([209.85.211.184]:54075) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MWjd9-0002iv-Mz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:22:07 -0400 Received: by ywh14 with SMTP id 14so1446882ywh.1 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:22:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87eirxlk5z.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============1383237400== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534d2f74dfbec046ff8c32b --00221534d2f74dfbec046ff8c32b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Bastien wrote: > Sebastian Rose writes: > > >> Column view by default only shows a single subtree. In order to do > column > >> mode over an entire buffer, you have to have text before the first > headline, > >> and go there. > > I would guess that having text before the first headline is quite a > common pattern. Adding one is not that much work either. Does this > requirement is okay for you? > Yes, that's a fine answer. The only thing I would suggest is that maybe it should go in the manual (in the section about outlines and headlines) that most people put some text before the first headline. Also, I think the documentation on column view could be improved. I think you should start the section by saying how to activate it (go to beginning of file and C-c C-x C-c). The summary given is currently: C-c C-x C-c Create the column view for the local environment. This command searches the hierarchy, up from point, for a :COLUMNS: property that defines a format. When one is found, the column view table is established for the entire tree, starting from the entry that contains the :COLUMNS: property. If none is found, the format is taken from the #+COLUMNS line or from the variable org-columns-default-format, and column view is established for the current entry and its subtree. I found this somewhat hard to understand (what is included by the "local environment"? Which is the "entire tree"? Why did it only create a column view for the headline I was on? Why is #+COLUMNS different from the :COLUMNS: property?). Thanks! Ethan --00221534d2f74dfbec046ff8c32b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Bastien <bastienguerr= y@googlemail.com> wrote:
Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> writes:

>> Column view by default only shows a single subtree. In order to do= column
>> mode over an entire buffer, you have to have text before the first= headline,
>> and go there.

I would guess that having text before the first headline is quite a common pattern. =A0Adding one is not that much work either. =A0Does this requirement is okay for you?

Yes, that's a fin= e answer. The only thing I would suggest is that maybe it should go in the = manual (in the section about outlines and headlines) that most people put s= ome text before the first headline.

Also, I think the documentation on column view could be improved. I thi= nk you should start the section by saying how to activate it (go to beginni= ng of file and C-c C-x C-c). The summary given is currently:

C-c C-x= C-c
=A0=A0=A0 Create the column view for the local environment. This command se= arches the hierarchy, up from point, for a :COLUMNS: property that defines = a format. When one is found, the column view table is established for the e= ntire tree, starting from the entry that contains the :COLUMNS: property. I= f none is found, the format is taken from the #+COLUMNS line or from the va= riable org-columns-default-format, and column view is established for the c= urrent entry and its subtree.

I found this somewhat hard to understand (what is included by the "= ;local environment"? Which is the "entire tree"? Why did it = only create a column view for the headline I was on? Why is #+COLUMNS diffe= rent from the :COLUMNS: property?).

Thanks!

Ethan
=A0

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