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From: Andrea Lazzarini <andrea.lazzarini1@gmail.com>
To: yantar92@posteo.net
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [FR] Enhancing footnote managment (via indirect buffer)?
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 15:58:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9C915190-B2C6-4F32-8A2F-A7E7DAAD1AFA@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7mcoaht.fsf@localhost>



> Il giorno 22 mag 2023, alle ore 13:45, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> ha scritto:
> 
> Andrea Lazzarini <andrea.lazzarini1@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> I am writing to you because I have recently published a simple package called
>> org-footnote-assistant [https://github.com/lazzalazza/org-footnote-assistant],
>> which aims at improving the overall functionality and user experience of footnotes
>> within Org Mode.
> 
> Thanks for your interest to contribute to Org mode!

Thank you for your kind reply, for the consideration and the great tips!

> 
>> The current management of footnotes has certain limitations that can sometimes
>> hinder the overall user experience. One major limitation is the limited inline
>> viewing of footnotes, which makes it challenging to review and modify footnote
>> content precisely and without disrupting the workflow.
>> 
>> Org-footnote-assistant addresses the limitations of inline viewing of footnotes
>> by using an indirect buffer.
> 
> I am not sure if indirect buffer is the right approach for _previews_.
> It is more common in Emacs to either use eldoc or tooltips.
> You may use
> https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/seamlessly-merge-multiple-documentation-sources-eldoc
> as reference about eldoc.
> 

Eldoc (or tooltips) could be great for previewing: I'm going to give them a try
and to see how they might be integrated in an academic writing workflow.
I wander if they would maintain buffer-specific highlighting though...

>> The package also provides commands for easy
>> navigation between footnote references, enabling quick jumps to the next or
>> previous reference.
> 
> This sounds like something we can extend `org-forward-element' and
> `org-backward-element' with - it may not only jump to the next element,
> but also jump to the next element of the same type. Jumping to next/previous
> footnote might will useful as a separate command as well though, as a
> complement to the existing `org-next-item', `org-next-link',
> `org-next-block', etc.
> 

Yes, this actually sounds great, and would make it really easier to implement
focused jumping.

> "Footnote Editing Window" sounds like a duplicate of the existing C-c '
> functionality (`org-edit-special').
> 

Yep! It is, and that's also very good to know: I am sorry but this totally flew
over my head in these years of using org... 

> "Customized Footnote Definition Jumping" does not sound too different
> from editing window. May you elaborate why it is useful?
> 
> I am not sure if I understand what "Enhanced Footnote Reference
> Searching" does from its description.
> 
> "Eeasier Footnote Deletion": How is it different from `org-footnote-delete'?
> 

That was nothing more than a simple wrapper for org-footnote-delete, which
is not an interactive function: btw, I am curious to know if there is a reason for
that. Why should users re-implement org-footnote-delete with wrappers if 
they want to use it interactively?

Many thanks!

Andrea Lazzarini

> -- 
> Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
> Org mode contributor,
> Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
> Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
> or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>



  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-22 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22  9:30 [FR] Enhancing footnote managment (via indirect buffer)? Andrea Lazzarini
2023-05-22 11:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-22 13:58   ` Andrea Lazzarini [this message]
2023-05-22 15:30     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-23  9:38       ` Andrea Lazzarini
2023-05-24 10:00         ` Ihor Radchenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-05-23 10:59 Payas Relekar
2023-05-24  9:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]   ` <990C578F-176B-4166-868C-0BC59759CC19@gmail.com>
2023-05-26  9:08     ` Fwd: " Andrea Lazzarini
     [not found]       ` <877cria8f9.fsf@localhost>
2023-07-03 15:32         ` Andrea Lazzarini
2023-07-03 16:19           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-02 10:09             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-09 11:20               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-05-26  9:13     ` Ihor Radchenko

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