From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: C-a and C-e in org-mode Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:09:12 +0100 Message-ID: <9B9CA781-7DB1-4E5E-B75D-84950A2E7A55@uva.nl> References: <4A2C5A06-A3A6-417A-AF61-790C86387E54@uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LYoEo-00028G-G4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:09:18 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LYoEn-000263-4e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:09:18 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51051 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LYoEn-00025l-1a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:09:17 -0500 Received: from mail-ew0-f20.google.com ([209.85.219.20]:45698) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LYoEm-0000ps-GK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:09:16 -0500 Received: by ewy13 with SMTP id 13so2815643ewy.18 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:09:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Ken Harris Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Ken, this is working now correctly in the git version. If there are no problems with the change, I will try to get them as bug fixes into Emacs 23, in a few days. Thanks for the report. - Carsten On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:46 AM, Ken Harris wrote: > Hi Carsten, > >> Hmmm, why would you ever want to call thee commands with >> a prefix argument? That did not occur to me, which is why these >> commands do not care about it. > > Do you mean "what does it do"? It goes down by that many lines first. > > Do you mean "what's the practical value"? I'm right-handed, so I > frequently move my right hand over to the mouse to test my program, > but my left hand always stays on the keyboard (what else would it > do?). On my keyboard layout, I can hit all of C-u, C-a, C-e, C-p, > C-k, and C-y with my left hand, so I can a whole lot of simple > navigation editing without putting down the mouse (or mousing back > over to my emacs window). If C-a and C-e can't use numeric prefixes, > I need twice as many hands to move the cursor down. :-) > > More generally, I have many years of experience with the emacs > keybindings. A mode should have a really good reason to change the > built-ins. (Steve Yegge's js2-mode also screws up some of these, but > has what are essentially unbreak-my-keybindings variables to let you > work around them.) It looks like this is not a case of it being > intentional, but merely that nobody has gotten around to it yet. > That's fine, but I'm simply reporting that some of us would like this > fixed. :-) > > > - Ken