From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id YFmLGnnGimC69AAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:45:13 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id CPYxFnnGimANWwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:45:13 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CECE422DD9 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:45:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:59220 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc7uh-0004hw-HB for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:45:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50834) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc7tt-0004hq-Hk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:44:21 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:60629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lc7tn-0005rR-BU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:44:20 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 145332400FC for ; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:44:12 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1619707453; bh=phUjnvODlKlVMzgZJdFXQ8fTX+/bMTONW+vtxBierOc=; h=To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:From; b=IH787ZMwm0R3IIxsAHpQz1G/xNoO3vkteK5c/5eiR6YuvqPj/d+Fn7FAMukrHQLWE /aCXoFf8km7AuvS9q2hbVoL9k/pHweHAv5rIsaEL/PKAOI2SoAUe8xOOW66ixp7kMf zdIfZoo8nLeWRqP0EXaAu4i1wthoAoih/ilGuOuiVq4mYhxE6oWCCcJMDQB0qiKdWO 0JjwZjE/jbDGzDpsEa8I8Dly2CmcS+7ccriA3gEA4l/+/BA6p94PIxb1HFXScgzfzV m38n2dLUjDkwntIu8z24fl+Mn9uWN3U0p+Uy6ib6VbAKiWhgNBQ7DUfW3OleKRH95t q40tVBObErMHg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4FWJDD0KV0z6tmG; Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:44:11 +0200 (CEST) To: Bastien , Ihor Radchenko References: <87pmyuyssi.fsf@gmail.com> <819bee63-7cf1-917c-d77e-b33999d217c8@posteo.net> <87o8dx18hx.fsf@bzg.fr> From: D Subject: Re: Concerns about community contributor support Message-ID: <8f05aafe-5759-2d2b-de52-89a92cef4625@posteo.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:44:11 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87o8dx18hx.fsf@bzg.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=d.williams@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619707513; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=49dCu5Kjb4GU9q4SNUCt6ryd3bT0IV4lrlCjPkd3bpQ=; b=fFUjIL2b6RZ86Z4BhvjR+zjD7A8E8JBqt8TfcVy+1nal4efr/PJ+19W93svYXdt+7bEKSF 5yqECGiqJBd1dlTDLLANBsIXTbt7URH7qr8DI4pElD61V6NiRZa412gYj+ntKm3dGDbHaP OeyYx+e5ftx9LHGJ043jp+CBYdPK4HifH5S1yBSKcOGqDSZXB6t6TygTrOfT5Ln5qPBeDi qG+XDNmgk437U1lyIsYEVMf/8peHAQJ0wM83KhgrXq4I3vGWIIG3eXcLJPHzsiy7rd1TVf fRfQeKIcJLQMjAj/XaqxKcCQ6bb8k1FxRpld03Ouir6xoJ/YJPmPYKu8F1ML5w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619707513; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=qo08GqlGZxrP0rgWkuzzJtuf5HxV5Dl4Nut3/q5wC8oRnIr6HjAlpIx1LuTnBr7NeXKv9k sCItRN7URespzCMRO4zwBHBdPaeEeqe5d+0zmP7ao8fYBHfvR+WHNPTbUIBvbhL3gJm6da 9PWoHe4R9NM2Q+YwKtuxVAIkOWKMkOhquSZDjYEV6AO7vcXJAp3VSL+zwG9Bvd/LSrD5ge 7zlB04OvJOGKWd03pwvO5F+pYmPgRV+M5hkt5LnuhBG8rEDER6RxTv43ibM7TlEGVNJoWQ P0RDKA6XqARhwf9fLA1ITGa3TvWbSo7M9dz5oT4JTo81idGaifG6a2yVFEAaeQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=IH787ZMw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.16 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=IH787ZMw; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CECE422DD9 X-Spam-Score: -3.16 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: /dXWO8nHQjsI Hi Bastien, Hi Ihort > https://updates.orgmode.org whoops, I completely overlooked that. > Org, whether they want to help, fix confirmed bugs or review patches. > > Of course, https://updates.orgmode.org is in alpha and we can still > improve it a lot. In particular, I plan to let it track unconfirmed > bugs too, to help with bug triage, and to provide woof.el to ease > interaction with this tool directly from within Emacs. > > Ideas are welcome: https://github.com/bzg/woof/issues I'll look into it, thank you! > In general, I find it good to have a central communication place for > the community, where newcomers can learn from more experienced users > and I've always resisted to the urge of having e.g. org-users@ and > org-devel@ mailing lists, as some projects have. Nowadays, users who > don't want to mix with Org's development can interact on many other > places (SO, reddit and others). I'm not sure sure whether it is about mixing with development personally, but I think my point is largely addressed by updates.orgmode.org. Cheers, D.