From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: Problem exporting code Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 22:41:13 +0100 Message-ID: <87zk00sxom.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87libnmdjx.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87pq0zkmrt.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87wqv5irnp.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87obghgljf.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42695) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Txlan-0007Hd-Hx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:41:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Txlal-0007yb-OQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:41:17 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com ([209.85.212.178]:52735) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Txlal-0007yP-HP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:41:15 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hn3so117555wib.17 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:41:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87obghgljf.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:44:20 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Achim, Achim Gratz writes: > Bastien writes: >> So I'm seriously questioning the value of having Org as an ELPA >> package and I'm thinking of removing this possibility until Emacs >> package install is fixed (Achim is working on this, but it looks >> like the change will not be in Emacs anytime soon.) > > I've to admit that I've had that thought too, but it seems that doing > this would perhaps even lower the attention that Emacs' maintainers give > to that problem. This is using Org users as hostages, I don't want to do this. > Until they admit any change into Emacs we could still > work around with advising require and salvage the ELPA users (I still > think we should do it anyway since a number of users will keep using > older Emacs versions). Yes, it is a hairy hack. It is :) We should remove advices, not add other ones, especially if the hack hides a bigger problem for Emacs. I will ping the community at large to have a better idea on how such a change would affect the community. -- Bastien