In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the user to the usual Emacs customisation system. Is this intentional or a bug? Org-mode version 8.2.3c (release_8.2.3c-288-g8c9887 @ /home/alant/.emacs.d/org-mode/lisp/) GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2013-07-14 on breezy -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:172385@iptel.org
Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> writes: > In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a > complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an > amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the > user to the usual Emacs customisation system. > > Is this intentional or a bug? > Not sure how it worked before, but when I click on Expand, I get a short submenu that includes a "Customize" sub-submenu that when clicked opens up a whole list (about 40 items) of customizations and customization groups (with corresponding submenus). Is that not what you get? > Org-mode version 8.2.3c (release_8.2.3c-288-g8c9887 @ > /home/alant/.emacs.d/org-mode/lisp/) > > GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2013-07-14 on breezy Just upgraded, so I'm using this version of org too. -- Nick
On 24/11/13 15:40, Nick Dokos wrote: > Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> writes: > >> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a >> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an >> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the >> user to the usual Emacs customisation system. >> >> Is this intentional or a bug? >> > Not sure how it worked before, but when I click on Expand, I get a short > submenu that includes a "Customize" sub-submenu that when clicked opens > up a whole list (about 40 items) of customizations and customization > groups (with corresponding submenus). Is that not what you get? Hmmm. It is what I used to get. And what I still get on my desktop machine. I must have messed up the laptop somehow. Sorry for the noise. Cheers, Alan > >> Org-mode version 8.2.3c (release_8.2.3c-288-g8c9887 @ >> /home/alant/.emacs.d/org-mode/lisp/) >> >> GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2013-07-14 on breezy > Just upgraded, so I'm using this version of org too. > -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:typhoon@iptel.org
Nick Dokos writes: > Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com> writes: > >> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a >> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an >> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the >> user to the usual Emacs customisation system. >> <SNIP> The error is being caused by my mu4e setup. It begins: (require 'mu4e) (require 'org-mu4e) ;; sets up links to email (require 'org-contacts) Eliminating the second two requires cures the problem and the 'Expand this menu works as it should. My mu4e and emacs 24 setup is a little unusual, so I don't know if this is a general problem. I would like to hear from anyone using mu4e. Thanks, Alan -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:172385@iptel.org
Alan L Tyree writes: >>> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a >>> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an >>> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the >>> user to the usual Emacs customisation system. I haven't used this feature before, and get different behaviors on OSX (where I have mu4e) and Linux (where I don't at the moment), so I'm not sure what you expect to see. On Mint 15, clicking "Expand this menu" places a Customize item in the Customize sub-menu, and hovering over this item opens a sub-sub-menu of Org customizations. On Mac OSX, it also places a Customize item in the sub-menu; no sub-sub-menu appears, however, but clicking the item takes me to a *Customize Group: Org* buffer. > The error is being caused by my mu4e setup. It begins: > > (require 'mu4e) > (require 'org-mu4e) ;; sets up links to email > (require 'org-contacts) > Eliminating the second two requires cures the problem and the 'Expand > this menu works as it should. I don't require org-contacts. Requiring or not requiring org-mu4e doesn't seem to make a difference on my Mac setup, I get the above behavior regardless. > My mu4e and emacs 24 setup is a little unusual, so I don't know if > this > is a general problem. I would like to hear from anyone using mu4e. Sorry I couldn't be less ambiguous... Yours, Christian
Christian Moe writes: > Alan L Tyree writes: > >>>> In the Emacs menu Org -> Customize -> Expand this menu used to give a >>>> complete menu of org-mode customisations which was quite helpful for an >>>> amateur. Now it gives a short menu that does little more than send the >>>> user to the usual Emacs customisation system. > > I haven't used this feature before, and get different behaviors on OSX > (where I have mu4e) and Linux (where I don't at the moment), so I'm not > sure what you expect to see. > > On Mint 15, clicking "Expand this > menu" places a Customize item in the Customize sub-menu, and hovering > over this item opens a sub-sub-menu of Org customizations. Yes, this is what I expect to see and what I think is the intended operation of the menus. > > On Mac OSX, it also places a Customize item in the sub-menu; no > sub-sub-menu appears, however, but clicking the item takes me to a > *Customize Group: Org* buffer. This is what I thought was the aberrant behaviour. > >> The error is being caused by my mu4e setup. It begins: >> >> (require 'mu4e) >> (require 'org-mu4e) ;; sets up links to email >> (require 'org-contacts) > >> Eliminating the second two requires cures the problem and the 'Expand >> this menu works as it should. > > I don't require org-contacts. > > Requiring or not requiring org-mu4e doesn't seem to make a difference on > my Mac setup, I get the above behavior regardless. > >> My mu4e and emacs 24 setup is a little unusual, so I don't know if >> this >> is a general problem. I would like to hear from anyone using mu4e. > > Sorry I couldn't be less ambiguous... Ok - it's very interesting since it seems like it is some interaction with mu4e that causes the different behaviour. My emacs and mu4e are both self compiled and then installed (Debian Wheezy) using Gnu Stow. If I use *either* of (require 'org-mu4e) or (require 'org-contacts) then the sub-sub menu disappears. I guess it's not really a major problem, but I do find that huge options menu to be useful. Cheers, Alan > > Yours, > Christian -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:172385@iptel.org