From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?utf-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Pinard?= Subject: gnus: link annoyance Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:48:27 -0500 Message-ID: <87zjn9w79w.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0AXj-0005z4-RN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:48:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0AXd-0001sH-SS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:48:35 -0500 Received: from 206-248-137-202.dsl.teksavvy.com ([206.248.137.202]:56694 helo=mercure.progiciels-bpi.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0AXd-0001sA-Mu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:48:29 -0500 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi, Org people. Still playing with one of my little tools (called org-grep), I added the capability of searching Unix mailbox (producing "rmail:" links) and Gnus mailgroups (producing "gnus:" links). This resurrected an old "gnus:" annoyance I once reported on this mailing list, yet without being able to convince anybody there was a problem. I dare trying again! :-) Whenever I visit a "gnus:" type link from Org, it has the side effect of "reading" the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to "unread" it each time afterwards. If I forget to unread it, which is a likely error, the article will not be shown if I later visit its mailgroup using Gnus in a regular way. So in practice, it is kind of forever lost. This is a sad side-effect of "gnus:" links. In this area, Org should immediately unread any "gnus:" link it follows, or else and maybe even better, leave the reached article with the flags it already has. If the user explicitly saved the article in an Org file using "org-store-link", (s)he surely though of it as kind of permanent, and Org should then not "read" it, even the user did not "bang" it. If the link is dynamically created like with org-grep, and the user happens to follow one of these links among many others, the user should not be "punished" by loosing the article because (s)he forgot to explicitly unread it :-). Fran=C3=A7ois P.S. Who also has a question about "rmail:" and "gnus:" links. Is there a way in the link syntax allowing a precise line positioning within the article? It would be wonderful for org-grep, that would then make great use of such a possibility.