From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rasmus Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice? Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 00:42:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87zj1wxh6i.fsf@gmx.us> References: <87egjgyo09.fsf@gmail.com> <6sw6c7vbcmypwh.fsf@dhcp-6-148.hmco.com> <87pp2tgmcz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9o4zyzq.fsf@gmx.us> <87y4hgdgan.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878u9gzw5d.fsf@gmx.us> <87a8twsk70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45792) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPej7-0001o8-ME for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:42:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPej3-00016Q-GC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:42:29 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52211) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPej3-00015x-8x for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:42:25 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPej1-0005JK-0F for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 00:42:23 +0200 Received: from 46.166.188.203 ([46.166.188.203]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 00:42:22 +0200 Received: from rasmus by 46.166.188.203 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 00:42:22 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Rasmus writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>> It's not trivial when you live in China :) >>> >>> I can make it work, between alternate IP addresses and ssh tunnels, but >>> it involves a lot of cursing and grinding my teeth. In a hostile network >>> environment any client will face the same problems, but the lack of >>> threading becomes pretty apparent here. >> >> I don't know what the great firewall is like, but for "hostile networks" >> around here (universities blocking git, airports blocking smtp/imap etc), >> I use openvpn. Are commercial openvpn provides blocked in China? > > Both commercial providers, and non-commercial providers! I set up my own > OpenVPN server on a US server, and that worked for a couple of years. > Then they caught it, and I switched to a non-standard port. That worked > for another four months or so, and now it doesn't work on any port. I'm > sure OpenVPN traffic is pretty easily sniffable. But what if you use TCP 443? That should be hard to detect, though speed might not be great... I guess https is OK in China. First link from startpage.com: https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/5919/how-to-hide-openvpn-traffic-an-introduction/ > My next project is ipsec (another broken-leg project). But I figure, if > I can google up these solutions, so can they, and the packet signatures > of all these different systems must be quite identifiable. Isn't ipsec as less popular version of Tor? BTW: I tried Tor again in the weekend since a relative was asking about it. Speed seems to have gotten a lot better (I'm in EU). > Using vanilla ssh seems fairly reliable: for the time being, I don't > think they'd go so far as to block ssh across the board. That would > really be declaring war on the internet. So sshuttle, tunnels, and the > built-in ssh SOCKS proxy are serving me well. Using dnscrypt-proxy > actually solves many of the problems -- in years past, it would have > solved everything, but they've started hell-banning IP ranges, and of > course that includes gmail. My own dumb fault for using gmail, I guess. The problem for me with socks is that it doesn't allow arbitrary port connections (I mostly deal with bad network configs, e.g. closed XMPP or git ports). > How off-topic can we get? :) It's interesting. And +30°C. It's fineeee! Thanks for sharing! Rasmus -- May the Force be with you