From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rasmus Subject: Re: Stable releases Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:00:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87zj1nf3pr.fsf@gmx.us> References: <55CA2E6B.4060102@gmail.com> <87fv3gv6rj.fsf@gnu.org> <20150818204009.GW25378@cardamom.adamsinfoserv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55538) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS9bg-0004qv-Em for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:05:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS9bc-0001zj-CP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:05:08 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:54478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS9bb-0001yj-Vl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:05:04 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS9ba-0003XW-P0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:05:02 +0200 Received: from x4db1a557.dyn.telefonica.de ([77.177.165.87]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:05:02 +0200 Received: from rasmus by x4db1a557.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:05:02 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Russell Adams writes: > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 07:36:00PM +0200, Bastien wrote: >> Hi Scott, >> > >> the main reason why 8.3 was not as "stable" as it should have been is >> that I've been releasing it too quickly, after having been inactive >> way too long. >> >> It's kind of a miracle that Org development could continue without an >> active "official" maintainer for so long, and we owe a lot to Nicolas >> and other contributors for this. > > Bastien, > > As a Org user since 2006 I've watched and appreciated how much time > and effort yourself and Carsten have put into maintainership. This > significant commitment brings about the following question: > > Is Org large enough that it would benefit from being broken into more > pieces? > > For instance a stable core that includes only the major mode itself, > which you continue to maintain. This defines the file syntax and > includes core features which require little to no external programs or > libraries. > > Then could you break out the exporters, babel, and many of the other > sub-features into "plugins" that could be maintained separately by > others, and they depend back to the core version? > > My impression has been that the core Org functionality has been stable > for quite a while, and the org ecosystem grows by leaps and bounds as > new users expand the incredibly flexible syntax to work for their use > case. It's nice to have "batteries included". This is also the strength of programming languages such as python, emacs-lisp, and to a lesser extend R. One data point: I can absolutely not be bothered using anything that is not at least in contrib. Rasmus -- A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it