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[180.150.91.8]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o190sm11750276pgo.50.2021.01.31.10.48.46 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 31 Jan 2021 10:48:46 -0800 (PST) References: <87pn1piaur.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <34884364-f690-1ddf-58c1-81ec352054ac@gmail.com> <87v9bdezsh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.15; emacs 27.1 From: TEC To: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: Microsoft Excel getting features we have had for a long time in org :-) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2021 02:44:54 +0800 In-reply-to: <87v9bdezsh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Message-ID: <87zh0pndro.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62d; envelope-from=tecosaur@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: gyro funch , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.06 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=CzU2iJuN; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3BE619404DF X-Spam-Score: -3.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: s3ZrtR19ilCO Eric S Fraga writes: > I actually tell (warn?) my students that spreadsheets are an example of > a "write-only programming language", the other being APL (for those with > long memories). I may not be of the right generation to remember APL, but I used to love spreadsheets ... until I had to look at the same spreadsheet later [shudder]. Using Org tables for small things and an actual program (python, R, julia, etc.) for anything medium-large I've found vastly superior to spreadsheets. Good for Excel, but as far as I'm concerned it's a bit like making a pitcher plant smell nicer =F0=9F=99=83. The trap is more enticing, but you = still end up in the same mess. -- Timothy